RE: [Bug 23408] New: update text to reflect new charter

Should we make the same change to the text in the Status section of the Canvas spec?

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From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 5:48 AM
To: Silvia Pfeiffer
Cc: Michael[tm] Smith; public-html-admin@w3.org
Subject: Re: [Bug 23408] New: update text to reflect new charter

I have made an edit for review:
new text
<p>Work on this specification is also done at the <a
  href="http://www.whatwg.org/">WHATWG</a>. The W3C HTML working group actively pursues convergence of the
  HTML specification with the WHATWG living standard, within the bounds of the <a
  href="http://www.w3.org/2013/09/html-charter.html">W3C HTML working
  group charter</a>. There are various ways to follow this work at the WHATWG:</p>


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SteveF
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On 2 October 2013 22:58, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com<mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Silvia, I would like it to be accurate. Its no longer required by the charter so that should be struck. I am happy to have a strong statement that we work to keep the specification of W3C HTML specification and the WHATWG standard in sync.

how about this?

"The W3C HTML working group actively pursues convergence of the HTML specification with the WHATWG living standard."

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SteveF
HTML 5.1<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>

On 2 October 2013 22:35, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com<mailto:silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>> wrote:

It's heaps weaker than the explicit call out before. It's a shame I missed that earlier.
I prefer not to remove that sentence from the spec, Steve, but just rephrase it a little.
Silvia.
On 3 Oct 2013 00:25, "Michael[tm] Smith" <mike@w3.org<mailto:mike@w3.org>> wrote:
The old section 4 became 3.2 and the old content from 3.2 was moved
into 3.1. The new wording is meant to be more inclusive of the various
groups out there."

  --Mike

Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com<mailto:silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>>, 2013-10-02 15:23 +1000:

> I only just noticed that section 4 of the previous charter has gone
> missing from the new one:
>
> Previous charter:
> http://www.w3.org/2007/03/HTML-WG-charter.html
>
> New charter:
> http://www.w3.org/2013/09/html-charter.html
>
> Supposed to be the diff between the old and the new charter:
> http://www.w3.org/2013/09/html-diff.html
> BUT it is missing to state that the section about "Relationship to
> External Groups" that includes "actively pursue convergence with
> WHATWG" is now gone.
>
> I don't think that is a constructive position and I am not aware that
> this was agreed.
>
> Did that section go by accident or was that on purpose?
> If it was on purpose, could somebody link to that discussion for me, please?
>
> Thanks,
> Silvia.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:29 PM,  <bugzilla@jessica.w3.org<mailto:bugzilla@jessica.w3.org>> wrote:
> > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23408
> >
> >             Bug ID: 23408
> >            Summary: update text to reflect new charter
> >            Product: HTML WG
> >            Version: unspecified
> >           Hardware: PC
> >                 OS: Windows NT
> >             Status: NEW
> >           Severity: normal
> >           Priority: P2
> >          Component: HTML5 spec
> >           Assignee: dave.null@w3.org<mailto:dave.null@w3.org>
> >           Reporter: faulkner.steve@gmail.com<mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
> >         QA Contact: public-html-bugzilla@w3.org<mailto:public-html-bugzilla@w3.org>
> >                 CC: mike@w3.org<mailto:mike@w3.org>, public-html-admin@w3.org<mailto:public-html-admin@w3.org>,
> >                     public-html-wg-issue-tracking@w3.org<mailto:public-html-wg-issue-tracking@w3.org>
> >
> > "The W3C HTML working group actively pursues convergence with the WHATWG, as
> > required by the W3C HTML working group charter. There are various ways to
> > follow this work at the WHATWG:"
> > http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/
> >
> > new charter: http://www.w3.org/2013/09/html-charter.html
> >
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