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Re: EME and proprietary plug-ins

From: Chris Wilson <cwilso@google.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:16:27 -0800
Message-ID: <CAJK2wqWUfx1XMnRhDZRwnd57gPehnkgVUyc3BQP72SBc2v0P5Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Robert O'Callahan" <robert@ocallahan.org>
Cc: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>, Robin Berjon <robin@w3.org>, Andreas Kuckartz <A.Kuckartz@ping.de>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Fred Andrews <fredandw@live.com>, Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>, public-html-admin@w3.org
n Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Robert O'Callahan <robert@ocallahan.org>wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Chris Wilson <cwilso@google.com> wrote:
>> I was responding to the thread of reasoning I thought I heard you making
>> that said "EME would make the playing field less level than it already can
>> be (and is) with Flash/SL."  I don't believe that to be true, other than
>> browsers that don't support EME.
> Apart from licensing, there is the technical issue that Henri raised which
> has been ignored so far in this thread: there is a publicly defined API,
> NPAPI, through which any browser can integrate Flash and Silverlight. There
> is no such thing currently proposed for EME CDMs, so for that reason alone,
> NPAPI plugins provide a more level playing field across browsers than EME
> proposes to.

Heh.  1) If you take on supporting NPAPI. 2) Again, that's presuming that
the content playing uses of Flash/SL never browser-test, which isn't true.

NPAPI could be used for this purpose, I suppose.  But honestly - Flash, at
least, is a dog; no, the inevitable product of a dog (I *like* my dog.  Too
bad she piddles on the floor so much.  Hey, the analogy works!)
 Flash-ripping aside, my point is that NPAPI was, to my knowledge,
developed as a content-delivery format.  The fact that, through a beastly
plugin that just happens to be installed on an ever-decreasing number of
desktop-only systems, be used most of the time to view "protected" content,
isn't a real answer to the problem, certainly not going forward.  Perhaps
your answer is "don't protect, and then it all just works" - which is fine.

Again, my opinions.  I don't claim to know the perfect answers here, but I
do have a pretty good idea that Flash/SL are a hacked and imperfect
solution at best, and they are degrading over time.

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