Minutes: HTML A11Y TF Teleconference, 18 SEPT 2014

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   [1]W3C


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              HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference


18 Sep 2014


   See also: [2]IRC log


      [2] http://www.w3.org/2014/09/18-html-a11y-irc


Attendees


   Present

          janina, Liam, Judy, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, +1.617.319.aaaa,

          MarkS, paulc, JF, Cynthia_Shelly, leonie, SteveF_,

          ShaneM


   Regrets

   Chair

          Janina


   Scribe

          MarkS


Contents


     * [3]Topics

         1. [4]Identify Scribe

            http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scr

            ibe_List

         2. [5]TPAC 2014

         3. [6]Longdesc CR Progress

         4. [7]Our Alt Note

            http://rawgit.com/w3c/alt-techniques/master/index.html

         5. [8]HTML Process Tweaks Going Forward?

            http://darobin.github.io/after5/

         6. [9]Other Business

     * [10]Summary of Action Items

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   <trackbot> Date: 18 September 2014


Identify Scribe

[11]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List


     [11] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List


   <scribe> scribe: MarkS


TPAC 2014


   JS: no additional information since our discussion a couple

   weeks ago.

   ... Paul, anything of interest to us appear on the wiki lately?


   PC: i need to get the wiki in shape. I will transcribe the

   issues from a couple weeks ago into that wiki.


   JS: PF will be scheduling all meetings, otherwise we won't get

   to meet with everyone we want to.


Longdesc CR Progress


   JS: schedule your hotel soon

   ... waiting for director's decision. on hold until we hear

   more.


   JB: nothing to add at this time


Our Alt Note

[12]http://rawgit.com/w3c/alt-techniques/master/index.html


     [12] http://rawgit.com/w3c/alt-techniques/master/index.html


   Liam: changed it to be a note (from ED). still needs a bit more

   work in the status section. there will be other pubrules type

   changes that will need to be done.


   JS: Want to get started on this. It's easy to miss small

   details that require re-publication. Would like to get a lot of

   people to review it, me, judy, paul, etc.


   JB: will need announcements prepared as well. Liam, we should

   meet on that.


   JS: can we get this published next week? reasonable?


   JB: sounds probable


   Liam: publishing as a note doesn't mean it cannot be updatedin

   the future. will need to add longdesc guidance at the least.


   JS: there is work going on in ARIA which may also result in

   some changes to that document.


HTML Process Tweaks Going Forward?

[13]http://darobin.github.io/after5/


     [13] http://darobin.github.io/after5/


   <SteveF> hi whats the passcode?


   JS: discussion on list about tweaks to the process for HTML5.1

   ... also some external discussions, like on robin's blog.

   ... discussions are picking up now that we are at a milestone

   stage. perhaps there are some thoughts from this group that

   need to be communicated.


   PC: robin blogged about this awhile ago and asked us to hold

   off until he did his lightning talk at the extensible web conf.

   He also started a thread on public open web list

   ... just starting. chairs would like to see what emerges.

   ... haven't had such a vibrant thread on public-html in quite

   some time, its good to see.


   JS: so it sounds like we should be reading public-html and

   participating in the discussion if we have input.

   ... glad I brought it up.


   CS: (early) congrats


   PC: too early ;)


   JF: Paul mentioned the thread on public-html. Seems like I'm

   only getting some of them... My concern is that there is

   confusion between a spec and a standard. that distinction is

   important to me

   ... standards don't change.

   ... a moving target is more of a specification.

   ... should not abandon one in favor of other.


   SF: From my understanding, the work mode...

   ... robin is promoting is getting more people involved in the

   early stages of discussions. ideas that emerge will still go

   through the process.

   ... its about opening up the development to more people


   JF: sounds to me like its a topic worthy of discussion. I think

   the W3C has done a lot to open up the process and add their

   voice. lots of complaints that its not open, but those people

   don't try to participate.

   ... moving to git, promoting CGs is all very open IMO

   ... the discussion feels a little naive to me at times


   <Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to point out that the w3c is also a

   business


   SM: I've worked for 3-4 industry consortia over the years. we

   have to remember that its a business too. there are bills to

   pay.

   ... its not unreasonable to push back and make that point.


   JS: this group has good discussions on call, will continue to

   add this to the agenda.


Other Business


   RS: Mark, how are we on Canvas testing?


   MS: will add tests over the next 5 days. next meeting is on

   9/26


   RS: in the test files we should describe clearly what success

   will be


   JS: canvas has now become a TF under HTML. Mark and Rich are

   still active in that group and will represent a11y there.


   <paulc> TPAC agenda updated at

   [14]https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-10-Agenda#F2F_Topics


     [14] https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-10-Agenda#F2F_Topics


   JS: unless there is specific issues for this group, I intend to

   keep reports on this work in Other business moving forward

   ... no news on Media


   PC: I have just finished cleaning up the agenda for TPAC. I

   added accessibility topics to the link above.

   ... please review and let me know if any adjustments are

   needed.


   JS: adjourned


Summary of Action Items


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