- From: Mark Sadecki <mark@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:18:27 -0400
- To: HTML A11Y TF Public <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
13 Mar 2014
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2014/03/13-html-a11y-irc
Attendees
Present
Janina, Mark_Sadecki, Judy, Cynthia_Shelly, John_Foliot
Regrets
Adrian_Roselli
Chair
Janina
Scribe
MarkS
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]March Meeting Schedule & Additional Clock
Adjustments
2. [5]Identify Scribe
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scr
ibe_List
3. [6]March Meeting Schedule & Additional Clock
Adjustments
4. [7]HTML-WG & Web Apps F2F
http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-04-Agenda
5. [8]Reviving and Expanding Media Subteam
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2
014Feb/0049.html
6. [9]Longdesc Update
7. [10]Canvas 2D Status & Next Steps
8. [11]Alt Guidance & Next Steps
9. [12]Bug Triage: Review of Resolved Bugs tracked by TF
* [13]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 13 March 2014
<janina> Meeting: HTML-A11Y Task Force Teleconference
March Meeting Schedule & Additional Clock Adjustments
Identify Scribe
[14]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
[14] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
<scribe> scribe: MarkS
March Meeting Schedule & Additional Clock Adjustments
JS: propose we skip next week with the CSUN conference taking
place.
... assuming that today's low attendance may be due to time
change.
[pinging various people]
HTML-WG & Web Apps F2F
[15]http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-04-Agenda
[15] http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-04-Agenda
JS: Chaals has announced that he will not be able to attend
HTML WG F2F
... Mark will be there focusing on Canvas
JB: Want to make sure that we are prepared for any issues that
may be raised during the F2F in regards to a11y.
JS: They will be clearing all the bugs. Zero issues and zero at
risk items
CS: They will not be clearing any 5.1 bugs. focus is on 5.0
JB: have we done the comprehensive check? Should we do a walk
through now?
JS: Not sure what's at risk.
[16]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/CR/
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/CR/
* Application Cache
* <dialog>
* <details> and <summary>
* <input type=color>
* <input type=datetime>, <input type=month>, <input
type=week>, <input type=time>, <input type=datetime-local>
* <output>
* <style scoped>
* <iframe seamless>
* Custom scheme and content handlers (registerProtocolHandler
and registerContentHandler)
* Outline algorithm
* UA mechanism for navigating to resources linked to in
cite="", see Bug 18915 for more.
CS: no concerned about any of these
JF: A little concerned about details and summary
MS: Steve has been discussing the outline algorithm on the
lists
JF: It's fantasy at this point
JS: It's not gonna happen if there are no implementations.
MS: details and summary
JS: we will have that covered in aria soon.
JF: we were using that as a solution for the removal of the
summary attribute on tables
CS: have that well covered with aria-describedby and
aria-label, etc.
... think we should make it a work item for 5.1
JB: We don't have a workflow for keeping these on our radar.
JS: we have a 5.1 list.
... its linked in the agenda. probably need to update it and
look at it more frequently
[17]Current open HTML 5.0 Issues
[17] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/open
JS: nothing to concern us here.
[18]Current open HTML 5.0 CR bugs
[18] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=HTML5%20spec&keywords=CR%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=33558&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced
MS: Just David MacDonald's bug RE headshots. Steve has said he
is working on this.
Reviving and Expanding Media Subteam
[19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Feb/0049
.html
[19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Feb/0049.html
[20]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/media-a11y-tf-2/
[20] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/media-a11y-tf-2/
Open for 7 days after CSUN so any interested members have time
to fill out the survey
JB: should we send around timezone links since the dates in the
survey are only good for 2 weeks?
MS: I will send around links to timeanddate.com that are
adjusted to the future dates so they are accurate for when the
group would start meeting, not during this daylight savings
time limbo.
Longdesc Update
MS: The coordination team continues to make progress on the
Exit Criteria. We are getting closer to reaching consensus.
Good news is the implementation report is getting developed in
parallel.
Canvas 2D Status & Next Steps
[21]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/2dcontext/html5_canvas_CR/
#hit-regions
[21] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/2dcontext/html5_canvas_CR/#hit-regions
MS: After reviewing the draft I proposed last week at our
weekly teleconfernce, we came to agreement on a version of Hit
Regions that could be reintegrated back into the L1 Spec.
...Jay Munro has already taken care of that.
...Rik may have identified a couple of additional issues which
we will be discussing at our next meeting.
JS: Just wanted to say that after attending the last two
meetings, I was impressed at seeing how well that group
operates.
MS: They have all been great to work with.
Alt Guidance & Next Steps
JS: Steve will be giving us an update at CSUN. HTML chairs are
expecting it.
Bug Triage: Review of Resolved Bugs tracked by TF
MS: All of the bugs discussed in the last 3 months in both the
TF and the Triage subteam have been processed according to the
new directives we received from Paul last week.
...While reviewing all of those bugs, I created a wiki page
that lists bugs I felt were left in an unresolved state and may
require further work.
...Some are dependent on groups that are not currently active
(media) or don't exist yet (aria sub teams)
[22]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Current_Bug_Triage_Issu
es
[22] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Current_Bug_Triage_Issues
[23]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13129
[23] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13129
JF: summary attribute is obsolete. went to a vote.
JS: weren't we promised that details and summary would cover
this use case?
... and now that is at risk...
JB: assuming we are talking about 5.1 here. We can't make
enough progress on this in reasonable time.
... is there an angle we can pursue in 5.1 for this?
JF: the argument against summary was the same they used against
longdesc, hidden metatdata.
... the fact that details/summary is at risk means we probably
need to follow up with this in 5.1 or we reverse the decision
to remove summary attribute and propose an extension spec
JS: we should go back in read the decision. it would be easy to
put summary back in. going back into LC is a good time to do
that.
... I am personally not for putting summary back in, since we
have good coverage by aria. But we do have options.
CS: If you're going to do something, an extension spec would be
the way to do it. This bug isn't about that though. Its about
accessible tables.
JB: the F2F could be a good time to address this with the WG.
JF: all of those interested in this will be at CSUN. Should we
have a sit down and talk about this?
... could talk about this at the WCAG F2F
... look for techniques
JS: implementations are still there
CS: John, can you put something together?
JF: yes, probably a working breakfast, maybe thursday
Summary of Action Items
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