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Minutes: HTML A11Y TF Teleconference, 13 March 2014

From: Mark Sadecki <mark@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:18:27 -0400
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      [1] http://www.w3.org/

              HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

13 Mar 2014

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2014/03/13-html-a11y-irc


          Janina, Mark_Sadecki, Judy, Cynthia_Shelly, John_Foliot





     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]March Meeting Schedule & Additional Clock
         2. [5]Identify Scribe
         3. [6]March Meeting Schedule & Additional Clock
         4. [7]HTML-WG & Web Apps F2F
         5. [8]Reviving and Expanding Media Subteam
         6. [9]Longdesc Update
         7. [10]Canvas 2D Status & Next Steps
         8. [11]Alt Guidance & Next Steps
         9. [12]Bug Triage: Review of Resolved Bugs tracked by TF
     * [13]Summary of Action Items

   <trackbot> Date: 13 March 2014

   <janina> Meeting: HTML-A11Y Task Force Teleconference

March Meeting Schedule & Additional Clock Adjustments

Identify Scribe

     [14] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List

   <scribe> scribe: MarkS

March Meeting Schedule & Additional Clock Adjustments

   JS: propose we skip next week with the CSUN conference taking
   ... assuming that today's low attendance may be due to time

   [pinging various people]

HTML-WG & Web Apps F2F

     [15] http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-04-Agenda

   JS: Chaals has announced that he will not be able to attend
   ... Mark will be there focusing on Canvas

   JB: Want to make sure that we are prepared for any issues that
   may be raised during the F2F in regards to a11y.

   JS: They will be clearing all the bugs. Zero issues and zero at
   risk items

   CS: They will not be clearing any 5.1 bugs. focus is on 5.0

   JB: have we done the comprehensive check? Should we do a walk
   through now?

   JS: Not sure what's at risk.


     * Application Cache
     * <dialog>
     * <details> and <summary>
     * <input type=color>
     * <input type=datetime>, <input type=month>, <input
       type=week>, <input type=time>, <input type=datetime-local>
     * <output>
     * <style scoped>
     * <iframe seamless>
     * Custom scheme and content handlers (registerProtocolHandler
       and registerContentHandler)
     * Outline algorithm
     * UA mechanism for navigating to resources linked to in
       cite="", see Bug 18915 for more.

   CS: no concerned about any of these

   JF: A little concerned about details and summary

   MS: Steve has been discussing the outline algorithm on the

   JF: It's fantasy at this point

   JS: It's not gonna happen if there are no implementations.

   MS: details and summary

   JS: we will have that covered in aria soon.

   JF: we were using that as a solution for the removal of the
   summary attribute on tables

   CS: have that well covered with aria-describedby and
   aria-label, etc.
   ... think we should make it a work item for 5.1

   JB: We don't have a workflow for keeping these on our radar.

   JS: we have a 5.1 list.
   ... its linked in the agenda. probably need to update it and
   look at it more frequently

   [17]Current open HTML 5.0 Issues

     [17] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/open

   JS: nothing to concern us here.

   [18]Current open HTML 5.0 CR bugs

     [18] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=HTML5%20spec&keywords=CR%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=33558&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced

   MS: Just David MacDonald's bug RE headshots. Steve has said he
   is working on this.

Reviving and Expanding Media Subteam

     [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Feb/0049.html


     [20] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/media-a11y-tf-2/

   Open for 7 days after CSUN so any interested members have time
   to fill out the survey

   JB: should we send around timezone links since the dates in the
   survey are only good for 2 weeks?

   MS: I will send around links to timeanddate.com that are
   adjusted to the future dates so they are accurate for when the
   group would start meeting, not during this daylight savings
   time limbo.

Longdesc Update

   MS: The coordination team continues to make progress on the
   Exit Criteria. We are getting closer to reaching consensus.
   Good news is the implementation report is getting developed in

Canvas 2D Status & Next Steps


     [21] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/2dcontext/html5_canvas_CR/#hit-regions

   MS: After reviewing the draft I proposed last week at our
   weekly teleconfernce, we came to agreement on a version of Hit
   Regions that could be reintegrated back into the L1 Spec.
   ...Jay Munro has already taken care of that.
   ...Rik may have identified a couple of additional issues which
   we will be discussing at our next meeting.

   JS: Just wanted to say that after attending the last two
   meetings, I was impressed at seeing how well that group

   MS: They have all been great to work with.

Alt Guidance & Next Steps

   JS: Steve will be giving us an update at CSUN. HTML chairs are
   expecting it.

Bug Triage: Review of Resolved Bugs tracked by TF

   MS: All of the bugs discussed in the last 3 months in both the
   TF and the Triage subteam have been processed according to the
   new directives we received from Paul last week.
   ...While reviewing all of those bugs, I created a wiki page
   that lists bugs I felt were left in an unresolved state and may
   require further work.
   ...Some are dependent on groups that are not currently active
   (media) or don't exist yet (aria sub teams)


     [22] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Current_Bug_Triage_Issues


     [23] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13129

   JF: summary attribute is obsolete. went to a vote.

   JS: weren't we promised that details and summary would cover
   this use case?
   ... and now that is at risk...

   JB: assuming we are talking about 5.1 here. We can't make
   enough progress on this in reasonable time.
   ... is there an angle we can pursue in 5.1 for this?

   JF: the argument against summary was the same they used against
   longdesc, hidden metatdata.
   ... the fact that details/summary is at risk means we probably
   need to follow up with this in 5.1 or we reverse the decision
   to remove summary attribute and propose an extension spec

   JS: we should go back in read the decision. it would be easy to
   put summary back in. going back into LC is a good time to do
   ... I am personally not for putting summary back in, since we
   have good coverage by aria. But we do have options.

   CS: If you're going to do something, an extension spec would be
   the way to do it. This bug isn't about that though. Its about
   accessible tables.

   JB: the F2F could be a good time to address this with the WG.

   JF: all of those interested in this will be at CSUN. Should we
   have a sit down and talk about this?
   ... could talk about this at the WCAG F2F
   ... look for techniques

   JS: implementations are still there

   CS: John, can you put something together?

   JF: yes, probably a working breakfast, maybe thursday

Summary of Action Items

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