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Re: Action Item Table summary action item HTML5

From: Mark Sadecki <mark@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:03:50 -0400
Message-ID: <53616536.6050102@w3.org>
To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, lwatson@paciellogroup.com, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
On 4/24/14, 12:37 PM, David MacDonald wrote:
> I've reviewed my results of testing:
> http://davidmacd.com/test/details.html
> The existing examples are spotty but NVDA is working OK using describedby in
> Chrome and FF .
> On the call I suggested using a straight paragraph above the table summarizing
> the table. That is essentially what example 1 is (with the addition of
> describedby). Since leaving the describedby doesn't break anything, and works in
> some AT, let's leave that as a core technique... I expect Freedom Scientific
> will come on board, eventually.
I agree.
> The same for the other examples using "figure". They don't work when the table
> gets focus, but they are no worse than using a paragraph before the table. They
> don't break anything. So my proposed changes to the spec are:
I agree with this also.
> 1) Remove example 3 if "Details" is pulled from the spec.
A new Heartbeat was published yesterday and example 3 was removed from the spec.
> 2) Amend the text in the last example
> ===current text===
> The best option, of course, rather than writing a description explaining the way
> the table is laid out, is to adjust the table such that no explanation is needed.
> ===suggested text===
> It would be best to rearrange the table so the row headers are in the first
> column and the column headers are in the first row as in the following example,
> and to ensure the table headers are give <th>.  For simple data tables that
> don't have merged headings or multiply layers of headings, this would usually
> eliminate the need for for a table summary. 
I'm not sure this is actually necessary as the paragraph that follows already
says this.

 (see Code Example that follows the text you suggest replacing)

With the text as it stands in the current Heartbeat draft, I see no need for any
change to this section of the spec.

Does everyone agree?


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Mark Sadecki
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Received on Wednesday, 30 April 2014 21:04:01 UTC

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