- From: Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>
- Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:51:40 +0100
- To: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- CC: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>, Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, w3c-wai-pf@w3.org
Leif Halvard Silli wrote: [...] > To hint at something you said the last 48 hours: I am not 'fanatic'. I > only mentioned iCab because it is a Webkit browser, in order to inform > about how a bug in Webkit could affect other Webkit browsers - such as > Safari - that eventually would like to implement @longdesc. 'Cludge' is > the right word for Webkit's handling of links - in general: It makes > Webkit quite unsuitable for keyboard navigation where links involved. > Same page links are also a problem, see Roger Johanson's article from > earlier this year: > > http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/201203/skip_links_and_other_in_page_links_in_webkit_browsers/ > > I am really sorry that my reference to iCab was perceive as fanboy-ism > rather than the technical input it was meant to be. Not at all Leif. I understand why you site it as an example. >> I don't know anyone who uses it, > > You also seem unaware of the entire skip links problem in > Webkit/Chromium. But a more relevant point in our context is: Could > iCab have been of help to e.g. a VoiceOver user that wanted longdesc > support? Unfortunately not. If it *had* been working, the my bet is > that you would have known someone who used it. > > [ snip ] > >> and just because it has some cludge for handling @longdesc > > That 'cludge', as you call it, is the exact same way that JAWS works > with longdesc - there is no difference. TBH, I'm not impressed with the SR implementation and would like us to provide a solution that moves beyond it. I like the idea of the @longdesc being 'buffered' by the SR and called on a user defined keystroke if required. I also like the idea of @longdesc being automatically read on focus (after any other important link info was read etc) and then stopped on any other keypress. Rather like the way that aria-describedby is currently implemented. I think that is elegant. Cheers Josh
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