- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:22:22 -0700
- To: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
- Cc: david bolter <david.bolter@gmail.com>, Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, faulkner.steve@gmail.com, jbrewer@w3.org, George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>, laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com, mike@w3.org, public-html-a11y@w3.org, w3c-wai-pf@w3.org, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:36 PM, John Foliot <john@foliot.ca> wrote: >> That's the key difference. >> I guess, we could ask if browsers would agree to using alt-enter as >> the recommended interaction for the new attribute. > > > I think that *might* be one of a few possible strategies, but I would > caution recommending a single solution, and rather allow for user-agents to > develop appropriate contextual strategies. Just think about if we had done the same thing with hyperlinks: left it to browser vendors to define the interaction. Is that really the path you want to propose? > On the Desktop, I think the > contextual menu is a working and a workable solution for many sighted users > (Mouse right-click, or for keyboard users Shift+F10 >> Tab to "longdescy > thing" >> Enter), and/but a screen reader could map that interaction pattern > to a custom keyboard control (such as Alt+Enter). Agreed, those are all possibilities. I think we need to propose the solutions, though, and not leave them to every browser vendor to make up for themselves. Just think about where that took us wrt accesskey. > I think that the mobile > experience might, by necessity be very different however, as the traditional > mouse/keyboard affordances simply are not there. Sure - mouse clicks are not that on mobile devices either. But there's still only one way to activate a link. We need a similar obvious single solution to activate a link to long text information. > It would be extremely useful non-the-less if all browsers followed a general > interaction pattern for inter-op benefits. I note as well that this does > not address the discoverability issue, only the interaction issue. Agreed. I had also proposed solutions for the discoverability issue: either an on-page indicator (an icon of some sort in the shadow dom) or an in-browser indicator (similar to how mouse-over often shows you a preview of the link url somewhere at the bottom of the browser). Cheers, Silvia.
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