- From: Hans Hillen <hans.hillen@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:38:08 +0100
- To: public-html-a11y@w3.org
Hi all, here are the minutes for today's bug triage call: http://www.w3.org/2011/11/29-a11y-bugs-minutes.html
The text only version follows below.
Regards,
Hans Hillen
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
WAI HTML-A11y Bug Triage weekly meeting
29 Nov 2011
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2011/11/29-a11y-bugs-irc
Attendees
Present
Everett_Zufelt, Hans_Hillen, Marco_Ranon, Léonie_Watson,
Michael_Cooper
Regrets
Chair
Léonie Watson
Scribe
hhillen
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Identify Scribe
2. [5]New bugs review
3. [6]Identify Scribe
4. [7]Actions review
5. [8]Bug keyword check
6. [9]TF sub team support
* [10]Summary of Action Items
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<lwatson> agenda: this
<scribe> scribe: hhillen
Identify Scribe
New bugs review
<lwatson> [11]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14906
Bug 14906
[11] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14906
EZ: New bug: [12]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14906
... I can see the use case for being able to hover dragged content
over an element to activate it
[12] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14906
HH: Currently ARIA doesn't have a way to indicate hover actions,
just drop targets
EZ: Neither ARIA or HTML5 define this behavior in the spec
... It's probably something that the task force should track
... I will add the a11ytf keyword
... This feature would have to be added to the spec, before we can
start making it accessible
Identify Scribe
Actions review
EZ: I scanned to the list and identified 3 drag and drop related
items
... With all of these bugs, the editors pushed back that the spec is
not meant to define drag and drop, but a mechanism that makes it
possible
... But a lot of language regarding drag and drop is mouse centric,
and alternative, accessible methods need to be described
... I've added some posts about this to the public-html-a11y list to
discuss this, but so far there are no responses.
HH: Evertt's message can be found here:
[13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Nov/015
5.html
[13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Nov/0155.html
EZ: ALl three of these bugs basically ask the question: "can drag
and drop be performed without a mouse?"
... So two of these bugs can be closed
LW: How do we close bugs?
MC: We can move bugs to 'verified', then someone from the working
group can close it
EZ: Do we close the oldest or the newest?
MC: [14]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8800 seems to
be the core one, the others depend on it
... So 8800 is the one that should stay open and be commented on
[14] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8800
EZ: I'll give it one more week to let people on the mailing list
respond, if they don't I'll comment to the bug directly
LW: We'll check up on this next week
... Marc, did you find any new bugs?
MR: No
Bug keyword check
LW: We can probably close this
TF sub team support
LW: So far I've only gotten a response from the media sub group
... We're at a bit of a standstill
Summary of Action Items
[End of minutes]
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