Minutes from HTML-A11y Bug triage telecon, 29th November

Hi all, here are the minutes for today's bug triage call: http://www.w3.org/2011/11/29-a11y-bugs-minutes.html

The text only version follows below.

Regards,

Hans Hillen


   [1]W3C

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                WAI HTML-A11y Bug Triage weekly meeting

29 Nov 2011

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2011/11/29-a11y-bugs-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Everett_Zufelt, Hans_Hillen, Marco_Ranon, Léonie_Watson,
          Michael_Cooper

   Regrets
   Chair
          Léonie Watson

   Scribe
          hhillen

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Identify Scribe
         2. [5]New bugs review
         3. [6]Identify Scribe
         4. [7]Actions review
         5. [8]Bug keyword check
         6. [9]TF sub team support
     * [10]Summary of Action Items
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   <lwatson> agenda: this

   <scribe> scribe: hhillen

Identify Scribe

New bugs review

   <lwatson> [11]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14906
   Bug 14906

     [11] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14906

   EZ: New bug: [12]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14906
   ... I can see the use case for being able to hover dragged content
   over an element to activate it

     [12] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14906

   HH: Currently ARIA doesn't have a way to indicate hover actions,
   just drop targets

   EZ: Neither ARIA or HTML5 define this behavior in the spec
   ... It's probably something that the task force should track
   ... I will add the a11ytf keyword
   ... This feature would have to be added to the spec, before we can
   start making it accessible

Identify Scribe

Actions review

   EZ: I scanned to the list and identified 3 drag and drop related
   items
   ... With all of these bugs, the editors pushed back that the spec is
   not meant to define drag and drop, but a mechanism that makes it
   possible
   ... But a lot of language regarding drag and drop is mouse centric,
   and alternative, accessible methods need to be described
   ... I've added some posts about this to the public-html-a11y list to
   discuss this, but so far there are no responses.

   HH: Evertt's message can be found here:
   [13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Nov/015
   5.html

     [13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Nov/0155.html

   EZ: ALl three of these bugs basically ask the question: "can drag
   and drop be performed without a mouse?"
   ... So two of these bugs can be closed

   LW: How do we close bugs?

   MC: We can move bugs to 'verified', then someone from the working
   group can close it

   EZ: Do we close the oldest or the newest?

   MC: [14]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8800 seems to
   be the core one, the others depend on it
   ... So 8800 is the one that should stay open and be commented on

     [14] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8800

   EZ: I'll give it one more week to let people on the mailing list
   respond, if they don't I'll comment to the bug directly

   LW: We'll check up on this next week
   ... Marc, did you find any new bugs?

   MR: No

Bug keyword check

   LW: We can probably close this

TF sub team support

   LW: So far I've only gotten a response from the media sub group
   ... We're at a bit of a standstill

Summary of Action Items

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