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longdesc verbiage

From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 04:25:26 -0500
Message-ID: <BANLkTimVZNczwL1aFgE7pHkv20ECFbWNtA@mail.gmail.com>
To: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>, Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>
Hi Silvia, Ben, Chaals, Rich, John, and Everyone,

Silvia, thank you very much for thinking outside of the box and
proposing longdesc spec text. Your text for the img section goes quite
a bit further than talking about adding the image to the longdesc
page. It doesn't seem that we have agreement on expanding the
proposal's current spec text [1].  Do you think that the images should
be removed from the rendering section? [2] We certainly can pull them
out if they are not helpful.

Ben, are their ideas in Silvia's text that you think we should
incorporate into the img section? If so can you suggest revisions to
the spec text that you think we can all agree upon?

I previously had suggested adding the words "in a device independent
manner" to the end of the sentence, "User agents should allow users to
access long text alternatives." Does anyone not agree with that
addition? I will add that in unless people think that is a bad idea.

Is the "Other Changes" of the Details section [3] of the proposal is
okay? John had mentioned that we should be as explicit as possible. If
it should be improved does anyone have ideas for specific verbiage?

Ben, the additional text that Rich proposed for the rendering section [2] is:
<p class="expectation" id="returnpoint"><ins>When a long description
dialog is closed a user agent must return the user's point of regard
to the element within the document where the user left off by
following the <a
traversal algorithm</a>.</ins></p>
Does that work for you? If not what verbiage would you propose? We
would probably need "for example text" to fit the format of that
section [2].

Do you have your proposed text ready for the metadata section [4] of
the change proposal?

Thank you all very, very much.

Best Regards,

[1] http://www.d.umn.edu/~lcarlson/research/ld-spec-text2.html
[2] http://www.d.umn.edu/~lcarlson/research/ld-rendering.html
[3]  http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/InstateLongdesc#Details
[4] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/InstateLongdesc/HiddenMetadataFallacy

Laura L. Carlson
Received on Monday, 9 May 2011 09:25:55 UTC

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