- From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 09:11:04 +0100
- To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Cc: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
> However, perhaps the spec needs to *specify* that it must belong in the
> default tab order? Thoughts?
Discussing with myself: There are several groups of keyboard operated
user agents that could need that the spec told them to - or whether to
- include @longdesc and @cite in the default tab order (so that they
subsequently could make these URLs available to the user):
* screen readers
* text browsers (Lynx et co)
* Vimperator (VIM-like Firefox mod http://vimperator.org/vimperator)
Leif H S
Leif Halvard Silli, Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:32:44 +0100:
> Steve Faulkner, Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:20:04 -0700:
>
>> i agree that the presence of a longdes should not make the element
>> interactive, what has been requested by a screen reader vendor is that
>> in the case of longdesc being accessed via a context menu the presence
>> of longdesc will cause the image to be inlcuded in the default tab
>> order. This is so that users can access the context menu and would be
>> required for keyboard users in general to be able to access the
>> context menu.
>
> According to HTML5, default inclusion in the tab order is not decided
> by whether it is interactive but by 'platform conventions': [1]
>
> ]] If the attribute is omitted or parsing the value returns an error
> The user agent should follow platform conventions to determine
> if the element is to be focusable and, if so, whether the
> element can be reached using sequential focus navigation, and
> if so, what its relative order should be. [[
>
> [1]
>
http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/editing#sequential-focus-navigation-and-the-tabindex-attribute
>
> However, perhaps the spec needs to *specify* that it must belong in the
> default tab order? Thoughts?
>
> And, btw, what about @cite? @cite is only accessible via context menu,
> AFAIK. This is also, in my view, an issue for text browsers like Lynx.
> (Text browsers could have implemented support for @longdesc and @cite
> in a fashion similar to how they implement support for image maps: for
> image maps one must "walk into" the image to retrieve the list of links
> of the image map.)
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