- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
- Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 21:12:27 +0100
- To: public-html-a11y@w3.org
- Cc: bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com, shelleyp@burningbird.net
aloha! it has been sporadically, but repeatedly, reported that, unless one is subscribed to the public-html-a11y@w3.org emailing list, one cannot post to the list... this has frustrated many HTML WG members who wish, for example, to query the TF on specific questions that pertain to how assistive technologies handle specific bits of HTML, what an AT is capable of, and to reality-check accessibility concerns expressed in the abstract... i checked the HTML A11y TF Work Statement and asked the chairs for a clarification as to where such input can be sent -- here are the pertinent comments from bug 10455: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10455 [note that i had previously suggested to benjamin to use public-html-a11y@w3.org to funnel information requests to the HTML A11y Task Force, but in comment #71 for bug 10455 benjamin reported that he, like shelley powers, is unable to post to public-html-a11y@w3.org] ------- Comment #74 From Gregory J. Rosmaita 2010-09-02 21:29:36 ------- in reply to comment #71 benjamin -- i for one would very much welcome more and varied participation in the HTML A11y TF, especially yours, as i have found your work for the WG to be consistently thorough... re-checking the TF's work statement, located at: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/html-task-force i found the following: QUOTE Members of the public who are not covered by the W3C Patent Policy can send input to the public-pfwg-comments mailing list [public-pfwg-comments archive], or the public-html-comments mailing list [public-html-comments archive]. Messages should clearly indicate the deliverable to which they are related and that they are relevant to the work of the HTML Accessibility Task Force. UNQUOTE since this has been a question that has arisen before (how to submit comments so that they are efficiently and expeditiously brought to the attention of the HTML Accessibility Task Force's members and facilitators) would it be possible for the chairs to speak on this issue, as: 1. there are already too many HTML5-centric lists to which one can post; how best to funnel feedback directly to the A11y TF needs to be determined by the chairs, as the public-html-a11y@w3.org list is publicly viewable, but one cannot -- as you pointed out -- post to it if one isn't already subscribed to public-html-a11y; 2. the severe limitations of bugzilla -- in the case of this bug, like so many others, without headers to mark the beginning of individual comments, everything after the FORM-stuffed-in-a-TABLE appears as undifferentiated text, making it difficult to navigate what not only constitutes the "meat of the matter" but also comprises the vast bulk of the information contained in the bug report without recourse to copying-and-pasting the complete bug report into a plain text editor (which is obviously less-than-optimal, as one is then forced to work on a snapshot of the bug report, rather than working with a document that may be updated during the composition of a comment therefore, should accessibility inquiries, comments, questions and suggestions be funneled to the HTML A11y TF via public-pfwg-comments@w3.org ? ------- Comment #79 from Paul Cotton 2010-09-04 00:43:57 ------- (In reply to comment #74) > in reply to comment #71 > therefore, should accessibility inquiries, comments, questions and > suggestions be funneled to the HTML A11y TF via > public-pfwg-comments@w3.org ? The HTML WG Chairs feel that the answer to this question is YES. If anyone has difficulty doing this they should contain one of the HTML WG chairs for assistance. /paulc END OF QUOTES FROM BUG 10455 would it be possible to discuss the issue of how to expeditiously and efficiently funnel feedback/queries to the HTML A11y Task Force at the 9 September 2010 meeting? thanks, gregory. ---------------------------------------------------------- He that will not apply new remedies must expect new evils; for time is the great innovator. -- Sir Francis Bacon ---------------------------------------------------------- Gregory J. Rosmaita: oedipus@hicom.net Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/ Oedipus' Online Complex: http://my.opera.com/oedipus/ United Blind Advocates for Talking Signs: http://ubats.org ----------------------------------------------------------
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