- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:47:54 +1100
- To: Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>
- Cc: Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, Mike Smith <mike@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
I just checked and the media subgroup minutes seem to be complete now. Cheers, Silvia. On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org> wrote: > As far as I can tell the problem in the minutes comes only from that the > media meeting time spanned 00:00 UTC, and the agent separated the log by > date at that point. I have shifted the log contents around based on meeting > instead of date and regenerated the minutes for both meetings: > > Media 17 November: http://www.w3.org/2010/11/17-html-a11y-minutes.html > Task Force 18 November: http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-html-a11y-minutes.html > > There was also concern that some content was missing that was not explained > by the meeting time / date rollover, but I checked and didn't find anything > to make me conclude that. If in the above minutes significant chunks of > content still seem to be missing, let me know and I'll look again. Some > clues about what you think is missing would be helpful. > > To avoid this problem in the future, you can issue the command "rrsagent, do > not start a new log" if you know your meeting spans midnight UTC. For the > media team, it might be good to get in that habit as I think the call time > routinely spans the magic moment, now that we're back on Standard Time. > Anybody can issue this command though normally it's a chair, team contact, > or scribe who would do so. If everybody forgets, it is possible to > reconstruct the minutes offline as I just did, just more hassle. ;) > > Michael > > Judy Brewer wrote: > > Just an update that we're partway through a reconstruction of the media > subteam minutes from multiple buffers and logs. > > The midnight rollover on ERCIM servers may be part of the reason that the > minutes generation was truncated; also the rolled-over portion then > overlapped with another accessibility task force subteam meeting. It looks > like it may all be recoverable, just needs to be pieced back together and > cleaned up from raw irc so it's readable. > > We're pulling together what I'm hoping is the full raw log, and Michael > Cooper is taking a turn at generating something more readable from that. In > case anyone is particularly eager in the meantime, most of the content > should be available through these two logs, noting that the Nov 18th one > also runs into another meeting: > http://www.w3.org/2010/11/17-html-a11y-irc > http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-html-a11y-irc > Therefore also: > http://www.w3.org/2010/11/17-html-a11y-minutes.html > http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-html-a11y-minutes.html > with patches hopefully from this continuous log at > http://people.w3.org/mike/outgoing/html-a11y.log > which is time-stamped Tokyo time so the dates are different. > > - Judy > > At 08:19 AM 11/19/2010 -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > Argh. I've just looked at the file more closely. I know my minuting was > more sparse than I wanted it to be, but I can promise you it wasn't as > bad as the minutes indicate. > > I don't know what happened, or whether any of this is recoverable. I'll > see what, if anything, I can do locally. That buffer is still open on my > machine here. > > I do know that zakim dropped me several times during the call. It > appears that the chunk remaining in the minutes is from the point where > I last reconnected--which was, indeed, near the end of our 3.5 hour > session. > > Janina > > Sean Hayes writes: >> Possibly. There still seems to be a big chunk missing from the middle. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: public-html-a11y-request@w3.org >> [mailto:public-html-a11y-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Silvia Pfeiffer >> Sent: 19 November 2010 00:52 >> To: Paul Cotton >> Cc: Janina Sajka; HTML Accessibility Task Force >> Subject: Re: Minutes from Media Subteam Mega-Telecon on Wednesday 17 >> >> I just found these as the first part of the minutes: >> http://www.w3.org/2010/11/17-html-a11y-minutes.html - maybe the minute >> taking was separated at midnight European time. >> Cheers, >> Silvia. >> >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> >> wrote: >> > These minutes appear to be VERY short for a MEGA telecom. Are these the >> > only notes that were taken? >> > >> > Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada >> > 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3 >> > Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329 >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: public-html-a11y-request@w3.org >> > [mailto:public-html-a11y-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:35 PM >> > To: HTML Accessibility Task Force >> > Subject: Minutes from Media Subteam Mega-Telecon on Wednesday 17 >> > >> > November >> > Reply-To: >> > X-Operating-System: Linux sonata.rednote.net >> > 2.6.35.6-48.spk.fc14.x86_64 >> > X-PGP-Key: http://rednote.net/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html >> > Minutes from today's HTML-A11Y Task Force Media Subteam teleconference >> > are given in text below, and are available as html at: >> > http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-html-a11y-minutes.html >> > >> > >> > W3C >> > >> > - DRAFT - >> > >> > >> > SV_MEETING_TITLE >> > >> > 17 Nov 2010 >> > >> > Attendees >> > >> > Present >> > Janina, John_Foliot, Geoff_Freed, silvia, Sean_Hayes, Judy, >> > Kenny_Johar, Plh >> > >> > Regrets >> > Chair >> > SV_MEETING_CHAIR >> > >> > Scribe >> > janina >> > >> > Contents >> > >> > * Topics >> > * Summary of Action Items >> > >> > ______________________________________________________________________ >> > ____________________________________________ >> > >> > cc-14 ttml=yes; websrt=css?? >> > >> > Silvia to clarify with example >> > >> > cc-16/17 ttml=yes; websrt=no >> > >> > <silvia> cc-15 tml=yes; websrt=yes >> > >> > cc-18 ttml=yes, via namespace, -- frowned on >> > >> > <silvia> websrt=yes >> > >> > cc-27 more difficult in xml; but is being done >> > >> > Silvia: has been raised as an issue >> > >> > ecc-1 more complex in websrt >> > >> > jf: important in educational settings, specifically dublin core >> > >> > pp-2 ttml=yes; websrt=no >> > >> > jf: seem two big differences--structural nav and text rendering; >> > also metadata >> > >> > <Sean> paper talking about XML encoding and streaming >> > http://www.bayardo.org/ps/www04.pdf >> > >> > <plh> time will be 5pm ET in two weeks >> > >> > Summary of Action Items >> > >> > [End of minutes] >> > >> > ______________________________________________________________________ >> > ____________________________________________ >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 >> > sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net >> > >> > Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org Linux Foundation >> > http://a11y.org >> > >> > Chair, Protocols & Formats >> > Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/wai/pf World Wide >> > Web Consortium (W3C) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 > sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net > > Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org > Linux Foundation http://a11y.org > > Chair, Protocols & Formats > Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/wai/pf > World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) > > > > -- > > Michael Cooper > Web Accessibility Specialist > World Wide Web Consortium, Web Accessibility Initiative > E-mail cooper@w3.org > Information Page
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