- From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:56:03 -0600
- To: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Hello Everyone, Since last week's report we have had three WONTFIX bug resolutions and one FIXED bug resolution. One NEW bug was reported. It is anticipated that the survey for the CAPTCHA bug will happen soon, as a draft was presented to Mike Smith over a week ago. We still need to agree on criteria for applying the "a11yTF" keyword. It would be good to settle this soon, as it is a blocker for task force pursuit of items key to our mission. The details follow. 1. WONTFIX BUGS: Bug 9215: "Provide a Webcam example that is in accord with WCAG 2 or Defer to "HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives", reported by Laura Carlson. http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9215 Ian's Rationale: "The problem described in the bug description is not a bug. It's an improvement over HTML4 and will actually improve the accessibility of content by reducing the number of images that are called out to the user and making the few that are called out be more clearly understandable..." My View: Not fixing this bug will hurt accessibility. Anyone suggesting not requiring text alternatives should demonstrate that doing so would be an accessibility improvement. Mutual dependencies exist between W3C technical recommendations. Omitting the text alternative for a WebCam directly contradicts WCAG. What kind of message would having conflicting guidelines send? Think of that. WCAG requires text alternatives and that's not likely to change, is it? If HTML5 doesn't consider this important enough to require, the spec might as well state WCAG is not really required either. This Webcam bug 9215 [1] is symptomatic of the fundamental conflict between current HTML5 advice and WAI's advice and guidelines regarding text alternatives. This Webcam bug directly impacts change proposals for Tracker Issue 31 missing alt [2] as well as Issue 80 title-alternative [3]. It, along with the rest of the bugs with dependencies on Bug 8716 [4], would benefit from the collected wisdom of this task force. It is part of an existing text-alternative change proposal [5]. I recommend that the task force expedite defining "a11ytf" keyword criteria and determine if this bug is in our work scope or if we will leave it to the full HTML working group to decide the matter with no input from us. "A11ytf" keyword criteria has been under discussion and ideas are being brainstormed and collected on a page in the Wiki. [6] Standardizing a process to determine "a11ytf" keywords would be helpful. Bug 9081: "Confusing alt text in the fourth The Lady of Shalott example", reported by Ian Hickson on Steve's text alternative techniques document. http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9081 http://dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/ Steve's Rationale: "I do not consider that the resulting text would be confusing for users of lynx, for example, users can configure the lynx browser to turn every image into a link to the image, in this case your suggestion of alt="" would be far more confusing as it provides no indication of what the image is..." My View: This bug is also symptomatic of the text alternative conflict. Ian has requested that Bug 9081 be escalated to a HTML Tracker Issue. It affects Issue 31 missing alt and Steve's Change Proposal which splits out and modifies parts the img element section of HTML5. http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ImgElement20091209 The bug, issue, and change proposal would all benefit from task force input. I recommend that the task force expedite defining "a11ytf" keyword criteria and determine if this is in our work scope. Bug 9077: "Lady of Shalott example doesn't really enhance the themes or subject matter of the page content", reported by Ian Hickson on Steve's text alternative techniques document. http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9077 http://dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/ Steve's Rationale: "I find your argument unconvincing. A painting with the same name as the poem that is described as illustrating the poem, its subject matter derived from the poem and depicting a scene from a particular part of the poem, is an image that enhances the theme and subject matter of a page whose main content is the poem "the lady of shalott". My View: Same as for bug 9081. 2. FIXED BUGS: Bug 9113: "Re: "axis on td and th elements" text could say "Use the scope attribute on the relevant th"" reported by Oli Studholm. http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9113 Editor's rationale: Accepted. My View: Task force members who are interested verify that the fix corrects the problem. The spec revision is at: http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=4883&to=4884 3. NEW BUGS: Bug 9326: "HTML elements mapping to ARIA and A11y APIs", reported by Cynthia Shelly. http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9326 Background info: Since all HTML Issues concerning the mapping of ARIA have been CLOSED, and the topic no longer blocks HTML5 going to last call, 9326 deescalates ARIA to bug status. At the March 25 HTML teleconference [7], the HTML Chairs created an action [8] to have a bug created for Steve's old HTML Action 138 [9]. Maciej had unbound Action 138 [10] [11] from HTML ISSUE 35 [12] when he CLOSED that issue. CLOSED issues become an ENDPOINT in the escalation process. However, I noticed a "proposal" component [13] has been added to Bugzilla. I'm not sure how that is going to work. Maybe it is for new features? At the teleconference, Cynthia mentioned that she considers ARIA more of a feature than a bug. Paul said, "sometimes, LC aren't feature complete indeed. so it would be best if we were feature complete and stable but that's a decision for the WG." [7] My View: Even though the comprehensive topic of ARIA mapping is no longer a HTML ISSUE, this bug is an excellent contender for adding the "a11ytf" keyword. I recommend that we expedite defining "a11ytf" keywords criteria so Cynthia knows if the task force can officially work on this item or if she has to go it alone (as has been the case with the text alternative bugs for Bug 8716 [14]). Currently not having the "a11ytf" keyword designation blocks the task force from officially working on bugs key to the task force mission. "A11ytf" keyword criteria is currently under discussion [16]. Perhaps Paul or Maciej can give more details of how the proposal component of Bugzilla will work and if this bug should be placed there. 4. CAPTCHA BUG: Hopefully the survey for the CAPTCHA bug will happen soon. A draft was delivered to Mike on March 21 [17] [18]. The target time frame to go live was the end of last week. Mike, do you need any more help with this? Is there anything else I can do to help move this forward? 5. ESTABLISHING "A11yTF" KEYWORD CRITERIA: We still need to agree on criteria for applying the "a11yTF" keyword. It would be good to settle this soon as this is a blocker for the task force pursuit of items key to our mission (i.e. ARIA, Text Alternatives). The March 18, 2010 teleconference minutes indicated that a non trivial cost exists to tagging bugs "a11ytf" and that the task force needs to agree on criteria for our decisions to take on bugs. A Wiki page brainstorms ideas [19] begun in the email "Criteria for 'a11yTF' keyword application". [20] We currently have twenty-two HTML Spec bugs awaiting task force decision. [21] Ian Hickson is editor of that document. We currently have four Bugs on Document "HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives Bugs" awaiting task force decision. [22] Steve Faulkner is editor of that document. We currently have four bugs that I am aware of that have Keyword "a11ytf" applied with no approval from the task force: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7056 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8674 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8715 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8827 6. REFERENCES. WONTFIX BUG 9215 References: [1] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9215 [2] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Accessibility_Change_Proposal_Status#img [3] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Accessibility_Change_Proposal_Status#title [4] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/showdependencytree.cgi?id=8716 [5] http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/ChangeProposals/ImgElement20090126 [6] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs/KeywordCriteria NEW BUG 9326 References: [7] http://www.w3.org/2010/03/25-html-wg-minutes.html#item12 [8] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/177 [9] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/138 [10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jan/0004.html [11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jan/0011.html [12] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/35 [13] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/describecomponents.cgi?product=HTML%20WG [15] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/showdependencytree.cgi?id=8716 [16] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs/KeywordCriteria CAPTCHA References: [17] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/CAPTCHA_Survey [18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0437.html "A11yTF" KEYWORD CRITERIA References: [19] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs/KeywordCriteria [20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0438.html [21] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs#HTML5_Spec_Bugs_Awaiting_A11yTF_Decision [22] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs#Text_Alternatives_Techniques_Bugs_Awaiting_A11yTF_Decision Initial Set of "A11y" Bugs which Were Determined to Have the "A11yTF" Keyword Applied to Them - January 2009. http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs/accepted Initial Set of "A11y" Bugs which Were Determined Not to Have the "A11yTF" Keyword Applied to Them - January 2009. http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs/rejected RELATED REFERENCES: Weekly Resolved and Rejected Bugs Reports Archive http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs/Weekly_Resolved_and_Rejected_Bugs_Reports Bug Status Table: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs#Bug_Status_Table Accepted Bugs: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs/accepted Escalating a Bug to an Issue: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs/Escalating_a_Bug_to_an_Issue Accessibility Issues in the HTML5 Tracker: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Issues Accessibility Change Proposal Status Table: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Accessibility_Change_Proposal_Status Best Regards, Laura -- Laura L. Carlson
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