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Re: a11y TF CfC on resolution to support "Media Text Associations" change proposal for HTML issue 9

From: Philip Jägenstedt <philipj@opera.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:46:55 +0800
To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>, "Silvia Pfeiffer" <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, "Sean Hayes" <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>
Cc: "Eric Carlson" <eric.carlson@apple.com>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Message-ID: <op.vaqishe3atwj1d@philip-pc.oslo.osa>
Personally I would prefer the captions being obscured by the controls to  
the captions sliding up and down with the controls, but think it's  
something that could be settable by a user pref. This is something  
different browsers might come up with different solutions for, so we'll  
see what users like best.


On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:28:42 +0800, Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>  

> I agree with both Silvia and Gregory. Both the controls and captions  
> must remain separate and independently usable whilst the video is  
> playing.
> I think it's important to note that Silvia and I were talking about  
> "above" in the x/y plane, and not the z plane. Well at least I was, and  
> I think Silvia was too.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory J. Rosmaita [mailto:oedipus@hicom.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 8:52 AM
> To: Silvia Pfeiffer; Philip Jägenstedt
> Cc: Eric Carlson; Sean Hayes; public-html-a11y@w3.org
> Subject: Re: a11y TF CfC on resolution to support "Media Text  
> Associations" change proposal for HTML issue 9
> aloha, silvia!
> since all too often, embedded controls and overlapping controls make  
> multimedia impossible to use with assistive technology, i simply wanted  
> to give a strong plus one to your observation that
>> moving the captions up above the controls is actually absolutely
>> necessary.
> this MUST be made painfully clear in any proposal -- that whatever  
> mechanism is adapted, it MUST present player controls and captions in  
> discrete sections of the display which MUST not overlap, even should the  
> user decide that she wants captions at the top of the video pane or on  
> the bottom of the video pane, the controls must always be visible and  
> accessible to the user
> gregory.
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Philip Jägenstedt
Core Developer
Opera Software
Received on Tuesday, 6 April 2010 09:48:13 UTC

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