Re: Agenda: HTML-A11Y telcon 10 December 2009 at 16:00Z - ARIA-in-HTML5 document-conformance criteria

hi all,
this may be helpful for todays discussion.

here is  alink to a google docs sheet with the current conformance criteria
in the spec and suggseted changes and notes from work pre and during TPAC

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=toQHOF3-IiYACgHX9bs2GrA&single=true&gid=0&output=html


apologies in advance for the crappy table markup...
if anyone has problems i can send a spreadsheet.

regards
steve

2009/12/9 Michael(tm) Smith <mike@w3.org>:
> ** preliminary agenda for this week's HTML-A11Y telcon **
>
> Meeting: HTML-A11Y telecon
> Chair: Michael(tm)_Smith
> agenda+ identify scribe
> agenda+ review agenda
> agenda+ ARIA-in-HTML5 document-conformance criteria
> agenda+ reports from TF Subgroups (Canvas; Video; ...)
> agenda+ review open issues
> agenda+ next meeting, confirm date/time, choose scribe
> agenda+ any other business
>
> To check for the time of this meeting in your time zone:
>
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=12&day=3&year=2009&hour=16&min=0&sec=0&p1=0
>
> In regards to the third agenda item above (ARIA-in-HTML5
> document-conformance criteria):
>
> 1. Terminology. We've used the terms "ARIA mappings" and "ARIA
>   integration" in discussions, but I suggest that the precise
>   description for what I think we need to make it a priority for
>   the HTML-A11Y TF to discuss this week is the specific topic of
>   "ARIA-in-HTML5 document conformance criteria".
>
> 2. Goal. I think the goal of our discussion of this topic on the
>   HTML-A11Y TF telcon this week should be to put together a plan for
>   arriving at consensus among the TF members on this question:
>
>     Question: What exact document-conformance criteria should the
>     HTML5 specification provide with regard to integration of
>     ARIA attributes into the HTML language; including, what ARIA
>     attributes should be allowed where, and what specific
>     restrictions on use of particular ARIA attributes on
>     particular HTML elements should the HTML5 spec provide.
>
>   Note that whatever consensus decision/resolution on that
>   question that we produce from the HTML-A11Y TF will not be
>   binding on the HTML WG but will be documented and provided to
>   the HTML WG chairs and group as a work product of the TF.
>
> 3. Documents. In forming the discussion for item #2 above, we have
>   two particular instances of concrete text related to
>   ARIA-in-HTML5 document conformance that merit special interest:
>
>     A. The "Annotations for assistive technology products (ARIA)"
>     section of the HTML5 draft specification:
>
http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/embedded-content-0.html#annotations-for-assistive-technology-products-aria
>
>     B. The draft document "Document conformance suggestions for
>     ARIA roles and properties in HTML 5" from Steven Faulkner:
>     http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/misc/ARIA/html5-elements1.html
>
> If possible, please take time to look at both of those documents
> prior to the telcon, and be prepared to participate in an informed
> discussion of them on the call.
>
> I suggest that we take part of the time on the call to look at
> those two documents together as a group and make some comparisons
> between them, noting points on which they are currently in
> conflict and having an initial discussion about what changes
> should be made to either or both of them.
>
> I suggest also that on the call, we try to set some deadlines for
> getting resolution on the goal in item #2 above, and for reporting
> back to the group about this topic.
>
> It may be that discussion of this topic will consume the full hour
> we have for the call, and so we might not have time to discuss
> some of the remaining agenda items (reports from TF Subgroups,
> review of open issues) this week.
>
>  --Mike
>
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with regards

Steve Faulkner
Technical Director - TPG Europe
Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium

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