- From: Ian Davis <ian.davis@talis.com>
- Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:54:07 +0100
- To: public-grddl-wg <public-grddl-wg@w3.org>
See: http://www.w3.org/2006/10/11-grddl-wg-minutes 11 Oct 2006 See also: IRC log (http://www.w3.org/2006/10/11-grddl-wg-irc) Attendees Present FabienGandon HarryH Murray briansuda danc iand Regrets Ben_Adida Chair SV_MEETING_CHAIR Scribe iand Contents * Topics 1. Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2006-10-11T11:00-0400 2. Cross-Introduction 3. Discussion of Primer Document 4. GRDDL Spec: 5. [#issue-output-formats] which output formats should GRDDL support? 6. [#issue-mt-ns] * Summary of Action Items <DanC> "Wednesday, October 11, 2006 at 15:00:00 Wed 11:00 AM * Wed 4:00 PM *" <DanC> that's UTC / Boston / London Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2006-10-11T11:00-0400 <HarryH> Sorry running late... <DanC> unknown: Rachel Yager, Chimezie Ogbuji, Danny Ayers <HarryH> +??P is HarryH Minutes from last meeting to be sent out again for review Murray: sent out introduction work, waiting for comments iand: haven't had time to read it thoroughly FabienGandon: what's process on editing? HarryH: editors version can be changed whenever danc: intro feels a bit long <scribe> ACTION: iand to review Murray's suggested intro [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/11-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action01] danc: hello world example needs thought <HarryH> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2006Oct/0007.html murray: needs rdf description of the stand in resource description section HarryH: might be nice to have same examples everywhere danc: readers may skip to examples HarryH: do we lose the point if we don't elaborate the examples? murray: if we put in 2 bits of code, e.g. 5-6 lines of markup making assertions about authors in fragments of different languages ... docbook, link rel="author" etc danc: pick examples from real languages HarryH: what about linking to the examples in the primer? murray: not in intro - it should be self-contained danc: dave booth asking for full xml example, we'll get to it . ACTION: Danc to flesh out ways to express author information in different markups languages danc, is that ok? <DanC> yes <scribe> ACTION: Danc to flesh out ways to express author information in different markup languages [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/11-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action02] <DanC> MM: http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec#issue-output-formats 1.103 is current Cross-Introduction <DanC> (I think the 2 actions in the agenda are done.) HarryH: chimezie expressed some concerns that 2 example were not flowing well enough ... should we use real data or not? danc: there might be real hreview data, but they're usually not xhtml and don't have grddl markup ... which means we have to copy, asking permission ... is it fair to copy yahoo data but not other W3C members'? ... would prefer to use real data Murray: shouldn't tidy up existing data HarryH: should we go back to reviews with manufactured data? murray: what about getting w3c staff to write reviews of restaurants in cambridge and get them posted? danc: i have hotel reviews HarryH: we need more than one reviewer for example to make sense danc: one hotel review is in edinburgh <HarryH> we could try to make reviews <HarryH> of hotels. danc: want to talk about xbrl ... xbrl uses xml schema and taxonomies which are like rdf schemas ... how much do we specify and how much do we evangelise? murray: are we a bit early? do you want to work on a transformation and put in primer? danc: yes I want to and we could be early ... linkedin use hresume ... might be easier than xbrl murray: i think dan ought to spend more time on section 4 of draft, less mathematics Discussion of Primer Document GRDDL Spec: danc: danny was going to look at test cases, ian too? iand: would like to be involved [#issue-output-formats] which output formats should GRDDL support? danc: don't close formats issue yet - ben adida and brian mcbride have some comments scribe notes some discussion on local policy vs intention of author [#issue-mt-ns] HarryH: when should we ship spec? wait for tests? danc: ready to go now <HarryH> Brian's question about conneg and GRDDL <HarryH> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2006Oct/0009.html murray: example of language conneg. without accept header the server sends english version, but my browser asks for spanish version ... grddl transformation will fetch from server and possibly get different language version ... how to fix this for the non technical user? <HarryH> harry: GRDDL processors SHOULD support XSLT 1.0 and MAY support other <HarryH> transformation languages." <HarryH> GRDDL-aware agents SHOULD support XSLT 1.0 and MAY support other transformation languages murray: believe dan's position is that "processor" shouldn't be mentioned but that the document shoud simply define the grddl terms harry: what about putting this kind of language in primer? we already have the following in primer: "Generally, if the transformation can be fully expressed in XSLT 1.0 then it is preferable to use that format since all GRDDL processors should be capable of interpreting an XSLT 1.0 document." HarryH: add a test case too <HarryH> add another use-case that adds XMLProc? <DanC> spec says "The transformation link type refers to a transformation algorithm that should have a available representations in widely-supported formats. We expect most consumers to support XSLT version 1[XSLT1] for the foreseeable future, though XSLT2[XSLT2] deployment is increasing. " <HarryH> Xlinclude case <HarryH> Content negotation case <HarryH> IanD: interested in content negotiation test case <scribe> ACTION: iand to construct a content negotiation test case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/11-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action03] scribe notes some discussion on grddl mechanism of passing document or infoset to transformation danc: let's work through comments <HarryH> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-comments/2006OctDec/0001.html <HarryH> ACTION: iand to address comments on primer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/11-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action04] <HarryH> ACTION DanC to handle Michael Hausenblas comments <HarryH> ACTION: Murray (namespaces) to go over Section 4 of GRDDL Spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/11-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action05] harry: what the critical path now on the spec? <HarryH> Murray: Example in introduction and Namespaces Section in Critical Path <HarryH> Meeting adjourned! Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Danc to flesh out ways to express author information in different markup languages [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/11-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: iand to address comments on primer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/11-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action04] [NEW] ACTION: iand to construct a content negotiation test case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/11-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action03] [NEW] ACTION: iand to review Murray's suggested intro [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/11-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: Murray (namespaces) to go over Section 4 of GRDDL Spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/11-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action05] [End of minutes]
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