- From: John Erickson <erickj4@rpi.edu>
- Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 07:02:51 -0400
- To: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
- Cc: James McKinney <james@opennorth.ca>, Fadi Maali <fadi.maali@deri.org>, Public GLD WG <public-gld-wg@w3.org>, Deirdre Lee <deirdre.lee@deri.org>, Makx Dekkers <makx@makxdekkers.com>, Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>, Hadley Beeman <hadley@linkedgov.org>, Bernadette Hyland <bhyland@3roundstones.com>
Hi Everyone! Last week I spoke with data managers at Woods Hole <http://whoi.edu>; they have "implemented" DCAT, and are currently working on implementing schema.org/Dataset to expose their dataset metadata in a useful way. RE DCAT implementations, what kind of statement do we need from an adopting provider to make it "official?" John On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org> wrote: > Hi James, > > I spoke to Ira a week or two ago and yes, OKFN is supportive of using the > latest version of DCAT*. The issue for them, as always for all of us, is > funding. CKAN users see DCAT support is being something that CKAN should do > as a core function - but getting funding to build your core function is > always a lot harder than getting funding to add novel new features that the > funder can claim credit for. > > > * Stability is the key here. Whether DCAT becomes a Rec or a Note, the key > signal we need to send out is that it is now stable. What's there now isn't > going to change any time soon. We can adduce evidence for this - the updated > namespace doc (www.w3.org/ns/dcat.ttl) shows what would happen to any > existing term that was deprecated at a later date - i.e. it remains in the > namespace but is flagged as being deprecated. That should, I hope, give a > strong signal of stability. > > The proposed new Data on the Web Best Practices WG [1], now under W3C Member > review includes a deliverable that is likely to extend DCAT but not change > any of the existing terms. > > We'll discuss DCAT later today on the GLD call so I'll be quiet on the > subject for now :-) > > Phil. > > [1] http://www.w3.org/2013/05/odbp-charter.html > > > On 17/10/2013 10:15, James McKinney wrote: >> >> Hi Fadi and all, >> >> I believe OKFN is open to adopting DCAT - has anyone asked? I'll be >> meeting with several people responsible for CKAN in the next week, so I can >> bring it up. >> >> I've also worked to get Project Open Data [1] to use the latest version of >> DCAT. Unfortunately, the employees responsible are furloughed, so the last >> few corrections have yet to be merged. Once the US government reboots, we >> should see compliant implementations, but it looks like so far no agency has >> implemented their recommendations. >> >> 1. http://project-open-data.github.io/ >> >> James >> >> On 2013-10-17, at 1:08 AM, Fadi Maali wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I would really still love to see DCAT moving on the Rec track if >>> possible. AFAIK, the main problem is the lack of compliant implementations >>> (data). >>> This is mainly for two reasons: >>> 1. There exists a number of plans to provide DCAT data but none is out >>> yet. For examples: >>> -EU: DCAT Application Profile >>> https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/dcat_application_profile/asset_release/dcat-application-profile-data-portals-europe-final >>> - Spain: there is an official decision by the government that all >>> datasets must be published using DCAT >>> https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/dcat_application_profile/news/spanish-government-publishes-metadata-specification-describing-p >>> - Belgium: see a tweet from Paul Hermans >>> https://twitter.com/PaulZH/status/385684667388919808 >>> 2. Existing data uses older version of DCAT and are non-compliant >>> therefore. >>> I have looked into a number of available DCAT data and summarised the >>> results at: >>> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Implementations >>> All data I was able to find is non-compliant. >>> >>> In addition, With OKFN having their own JSON-based dataset description >>> recommendation and the Schema.org Dataset extension, it is harder to find >>> DCAT data. >>> >>> It would be great if we can think of a set of actions that we might do in >>> order to DCAT on Rec track. Could we provide implementations ourselves? What >>> other items are required to keep DCAT on Rec track? >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> Fadi Maali >>> PhD student @ Insight Galway (formerly DERI) >>> Irish Research Council Embark Scholarship holder >>> http://www.deri.ie/users/fadi-maali >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > > Phil Archer > W3C eGovernment > > http://philarcher.org > +44 (0)7887 767755 > @philarcher1 > -- John S. Erickson, Ph.D. Director, Web Science Operations Tetherless World Constellation (RPI) <http://tw.rpi.edu> <erickj4@rpi.edu> Twitter & Skype: olyerickson
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