- From: Martin Kaltenböck <m.kaltenboeck@semantic-web.at>
- Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 18:12:47 +0100 (CET)
- To: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
- Cc: Bernadette Hyland <bhyland@3roundstones.com>, Fadi Maali <fadi.maali@deri.org>, John Erickson <olyerickson@gmail.com>, W3C public GLD WG WG <public-gld-wg@w3.org>
Hi Phil, all also would like to jump in here - I do NOT believe either that we will find a taxonomy et al that the whole world will use to categorise / to classify open data sets globally - e.g. in Austria we have specified 14 categories that were already used in eGovernment here in Austria (before we started open data) - see: http://reference.e-government.gv.at/uploads/media/OGD-Metadaten_2_1_2012_10.pdf (Page 27 - document is in German language but these categories are also translated to EN language) - we also tried a first mapping to publicdata..eu as well as EN ISO 19115 Also Eurovoc (or the mentioned NACE codes) are interesting approaches - but cover only a part of the whole picture... Also (E)government in e.g. Austria works differently then in e.g. Czech Republic and our classification schemes are different - and we do have different languages,... AND: in a time of Linked (Open) Data it is good to re-use an existing classification scheme (e.g. Eurovoc as a starting point in EU is great for sure, as it is already in use and also already translated) BUT: if someone does NOT use such a common 'list of categories' or has the need to expand his categorisation system then we can link our approaches (making use of LOD principles) and thereby align our 'terminologies = classification schemes' and thereby we are able to understand each other again (means: the machines understand our several classification schemes ;)... Such an alignment is (hard) work for sure - but worth doing - so that for example US open data sets can be easily found and compared with UK data sets, Austrian data sets etc..... We here at SWC have started to build a small open data SKOS Thesaurus some time ago that is / can be linked to other thesauri / taxonomies easily - see: http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/OpenData.html (Also published using ADMS: http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/OpenData/adms/0.3) This is only a demo (only a few concepts in it and some links to DBpedia established) - but it shows the principle and could (when built properly) be a good basis for categorisation / tagging of open data sets... Maybe this helps the discussion - cheers - martin -- Martin Kaltenböck, CMC Managing Partner, CFO Semantic Web Company (SWC) Mariahilfer Strasse 70 / 8 A - 1070 Vienna, Austria Tel +43 1 402 12 35 - 25 Fax +43 1 402 12 35 - 22 Mobile +43 650 3905697 http://www.semantic-web.at http://blog.semantic-web.at http://poolparty.biz LOD2 - Creating Knowledge out of Interlinked Data - http://lod2.eu/ EDF2013, 09-10 April2013, Dublin - http://2013.data-forum.eu/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Archer" <phila@w3.org> To: "Bernadette Hyland" <bhyland@3roundstones.com> Cc: "Fadi Maali" <fadi.maali@deri.org>, "John Erickson" <olyerickson@gmail.com>, "W3C public GLD WG WG" <public-gld-wg@w3.org> Sent: Monday, 4 March, 2013 5:36:25 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Classification of open datasets... I pitched in with a small comment. I've seen the thread and thought "must thread that" - and now I have. DCAT etc. is not really what Peter's after - it's values for dcterms:subject I think. The concepts around vocab profiles is something I'm looking at in the context of possible work items for a successor WG. So what I'm looking for now is possible community interest, background info etc. P On 04/03/2013 15:34, Bernadette Hyland wrote: > Hi Fadi, John & Phil, > There is a detailed thread that Peter Krantz kicked off about open data set vocabularies on Friday (1-Mar). It was sent to the euopendata@lists.okfn.org and public-egov-ig@w3.org list and not the public gld working group list (unfortunately). > > I encourage you to look at the thread in its entirety as people from EU & US are weighing on with a variety of answers and this is near & dear to the charter of the GLD WG. Unfortunately, people have omitted the entire thread when responding but I'll forward some responses FYR. > > Great example of where relevant guidance is required in context of what people are using today open data initiatives and describing gov't data sets. > > Phi, Deirdre, Martin -- This would be great material for a talk at the European Data Forum and/or Open Data on the Web workshop, both in April. Just saying ... > > > Cheers, > > Bernadette Hyland, co-chair > W3C Government Linked Data Working Group > Charter: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ > > Begin forwarded message: > >> Resent-From: public-egov-ig@w3.org >> From: "koumenides c.l. (clk1v07)" <clk1v07@ecs.soton.ac.uk> >> Subject: RE: Classification of open datasets... >> Date: March 1, 2013 5:25:18 AM EST >> To: Peter Krantz <peter@peterkrantz.se>, "euopendata@lists.okfn.org" <euopendata@lists.okfn.org>, public-egov-ig <public-egov-ig@w3.org> >> >> Hi >> >> I suppose W3C's DCAT would be a candidate in this case. http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/ >> >> Regards, >> >> Christos >> ________________________________________ >> From: Peter Krantz [peter@peterkrantz.se] >> Sent: 01 March 2013 09:32 >> To: euopendata@lists.okfn.org; public-egov-ig >> Subject: Classification of open datasets... >> >> Hi! >> >> Many countries are developing national portals with metadata about >> open datasets from the public sector. To make datasets easier to find >> and to lower the threshold for pan-european (or global) re-use it >> would be great if classification of datasets followed a shared >> taxonomy. >> >> There are many candidates that could be used, e.g. Eurovoc [1], NACE >> [2]. I would be grateful for any pointers if there is work going on to >> harmonize classification of datasets on a global or European level. >> >> Regards, >> >> Peter Krantz >> http://www.peterkrantz.com >> @peterkz_swe >> >> [1]: http://eurovoc.europa.eu/ - availabble as LOD >> [2]: http://ec.europa.eu/competition/mergers/cases/index/nace_all.html >> > > -- Phil Archer W3C eGovernment http://philarcher.org +44 (0)7887 767755 @philarcher1
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