- From: Sarven Capadisli <sarven.capadisli@deri.org>
- Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 19:27:56 +0100
- To: Dave Reynolds <dave.e.reynolds@gmail.com>, public-gld-wg@w3.org
On 12/07/2013 06:23 PM, Dave Reynolds wrote: > On 07/12/13 17:01, Sarven Capadisli wrote: >> On 12/07/2013 04:25 PM, Dave Reynolds wrote: >>> [Not sure this is the best place to ask since most QB implementors are >>> not in the WG but ...] >> >> True that. Just wanted to get a quick feel from a few that's still >> keeping an eye on the mailing list and wanted to chime in. :) >> >>> On 07/12/13 11:36, Sarven Capadisli wrote: >>>> How does your application consume and/or view QB observations? >>> >>> View as graphs, interactive tables, in-line numeric presentations, >>> traffic-light widgets, dial-widgets, symbolic summaries - all sorts. >>> >>> Accessed via Linked Data API to slices and observations, via custom data >>> cube specific APIs, via general SPARQL, via link following via bulk >>> download of compressed Turtle - all sorts. >>> >>> [We've quite a lot of QB applications :) and pretty much any access >>> approach will have come up at least once.] >>> >>> Contrary to the earlier discussion we do link to specific observations, >>> this is a key value of the approach for *some* of our applications. For >>> example, for the Bathing Water quality data then the human readable >>> pages such as [1] make claims about the quality of water at particular >>> places at particular times. These claims are linked to the individual >>> observations. For example click on the "Lastest weekly in-season" title >>> on the table takes you to [2]. From this observation you can get to the >>> overall dataset and there's also a dct:source link to the specific line >>> in the specific incremental CSV data file which was used to generate the >>> linked data in the first place. This provenance traceback is one of the >>> values of the linked data approach in this particular case. >>> >>> Of course there are also graphical presentation of subsets of particular >>> slices [3]. Not everything is at a per-observation level. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> [1] >>> http://environment.data.gov.uk/bwq/explorer/info.html?site=ukk1202-36000 >>> [2] >>> http://environment.data.gov.uk/doc/bathing-water-quality/in-season/bathing-water/ukk1202-36000/latest >>> >>> >>> >>> [3] >>> http://environment.data.gov.uk/bwq/explorer/sample-data.html?site=ukk1202-36000 >>> >>> >> >> >> Thanks for sharing! Nice use of latest. >> >> If I understand you correctly, via slices, linking to individual >> observations is necessary, and one can still make their way to the whole >> dataset. >> >> What I fear is dealing with insane number of slices and observations >> point from a dataset. I suppose caching or paginating are some ways to >> remedy the problem. > > Sure, not saying that linked data following is the right want to handle > cubes in general. I'd recommend cube-specific APIs with support for > pagination and/or bulk download guided by void for routine use. But the > ability to tie data presentations back to individual observations that > dereference can be useful. Especially in a case like this where > observations can be revised (so you can see if the data point replaced a > prior publication or has itself been replaced). > >> Aside: I couldn't get much out of >> http://environment.data.gov.uk/data/bathing-water-quality/LatestSampleSlice >> > > Not sure where that link came from. The Class is in /def rather than /data: > > http://environment.data.gov.uk/def/bathing-water-quality/LatestSampleSlice > > The slice itself is: > > http://environment.data.gov.uk/data/bathing-water-quality/in-season/slice/latest > > >> or http://environment.data.gov.uk/id/bathing-water/ukk1202-3600 > > Final 0 has got lost: > > http://environment.data.gov.uk/id/bathing-water/ukk1202-36000 > > Dave > I saw bwq-iss:latest ( http://environment.data.gov.uk/data/bathing-water-quality/in-season/slice/latest ) in the query below and so I did: SELECT * { bwq-iss:latest ?p ?o } to see what it contained, hence: bwq-iss:latest a <http://environment.data.gov.uk/data/bathing-water-quality/LatestSampleSlice> -Sarven
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