- From: Benedikt Kämpgen <kaempgen@fzi.de>
- Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 16:32:53 +0200
- To: 'Dave Reynolds' <dave.e.reynolds@gmail.com>, Benedikt Kämpgen <kaempgen@fzi.de>
- CC: "'Thomas, George (OS/ASA/OCIO/OEA)'" <George.Thomas1@hhs.gov>, <richard@cyganiak.de>, GLD Chairs <team-gld-chairs@w3.org>, <public-gld-wg@w3.org>
Hi Dave, Thanks for your answer to a possible QB session on 17/5 and having XBRL as a possible use case for QB (as also discussed on the GLD public mailing list): > My plan with the exist QB issues is to work through them, proposing a > possible resolution to each (some of which may be "do nothing in this round > of standardization"). Once we have some proposals and initial on-list > discussion will be a good time for dedicated time in a telecon. Understood. > I wasn't aware of any plan to have a "first QB telecon" on the 17th. > Seems like I've missed some context here! It'll be very challenging, given my > other work load, to get many of the proposals written up in time for that. I think, not all proposals would need to be fully prepared for this session, since we will have other QB sessions coming. > On the question of XBRL/QB alignment then I'd like to understand what the > goal is here and what is required ... > > It might be that this is simply another usage of QB, in which case it could > indeed be mentioned in the use case document and that would suffice. > > It might that this usage is sufficiently important but non-trivial to carry out > that it would be worth going further and giving advice on how to do it. For > example, that could take the form of a separate non-normative working > group Note. > > Or it might be there are some changes needed to the core QB vocabulary to > enable this usage. If that's the situation then we need to know precisely > what that would entail before deciding to attempt it. I'm very nervous of > scope creep. For example, IMHO anything that gets close to business rules is > absolutely out of scope - there are enough business rule standards already :) I can try to have some slides about XBRL and how it relates to QB. We could then have a short discussion about having QB as a use case. I also guess that business rules are out of scope, however, the possible usage of QB in combination with rules could be interesting for a larger community and, if resources permit, might be put in our cookbook or in the QB use case document, for instance. > I'd rather get a clearer picture of what's involved here before we go setting > set up telecons with invited XBRL experts. Otherwise we send a signal that > we are planning work which in fact we are not currently committed to, and is > possibly beyond our charter. Understood. Best, Benedikt > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Reynolds [mailto:dave.e.reynolds@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:27 PM > To: Benedikt Kämpgen > Cc: 'Thomas, George (OS/ASA/OCIO/OEA)'; richard@cyganiak.de; GLD Chairs > Subject: Re: QB Vocab GLD focus [ was RE: Feedback on Ingredients for High > Quality Linked Data section of Linked Data Cookbook] > > Hi Benedikt, > > My plan with the exist QB issues is to work through them, proposing a > possible resolution to each (some of which may be "do nothing in this round > of standardization"). Once we have some proposals and initial on-list > discussion will be a good time for dedicated time in a telecon. > > I wasn't aware of any plan to have a "first QB telecon" on the 17th. > Seems like I've missed some context here! It'll be very challenging, given my > other work load, to get many of the proposals written up in time for that. > > On the question of XBRL/QB alignment then I'd like to understand what the > goal is here and what is required ... > > It might be that this is simply another usage of QB, in which case it could > indeed be mentioned in the use case document and that would suffice. > > It might that this usage is sufficiently important but non-trivial to carry out > that it would be worth going further and giving advice on how to do it. For > example, that could take the form of a separate non-normative working > group Note. > > Or it might be there are some changes needed to the core QB vocabulary to > enable this usage. If that's the situation then we need to know precisely > what that would entail before deciding to attempt it. I'm very nervous of > scope creep. For example, IMHO anything that gets close to business rules is > absolutely out of scope - there are enough business rule standards already :) > > I'd rather get a clearer picture of what's involved here before we go setting > set up telecons with invited XBRL experts. Otherwise we send a signal that > we are planning work which in fact we are not currently committed to, and is > possibly beyond our charter. > > Does that make sense? > > [Shouldn't this discussion be happening on the GLD list?] > > Cheers, > Dave > > On 07/05/12 15:32, Benedikt Kämpgen wrote: > > Hi George, > > > > Thanks for planning a QB session on 5/17. I can give a presentation on > > how we used QB to analyse XBRL data for the XBRL challenge [1], > > including an outlook of what open issues there are regarding aligning > > XBRL and QB (see my email to the public-comments). > > > > I think it is a great idea to invite Charles, David, and Herm to the > > QB telecon, since they will add useful comments regarding XBRL use > > cases for QB. However, before doing so, I would like to ask Dave and > Richard. > > > > @Dave, Richard: What are your thoughts about including XBRL use cases > > to QB work? Should we rather concentrate first on current QB issues > > [2] or would it be fine to invite XBRL people to our first QB telecon > > on 5/17? Are there points for the agenda that we shouldn't miss? > > > > Best, > > > > Benedikt > > > > [1]<http://xbrl.us/research/appdev/pages/275.aspx#> > > [2]<http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/3> > >
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