- From: Alissa Cooper <acooper@cdt.org>
- Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:19:19 -0400
- To: public-geolocation <public-geolocation@w3.org>
I would obviously prefer to have the user's privacy preferences expressible through the API itself. But should the text below make its way into the spec as an alternative mechanism for addressing privacy, I have a few suggestions on how to make it clearer and more consistent. On Mar 30, 2009, at 6:35 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Hi, > > Here is a new draft wording based on the feedback received so far. > > > Privacy considerations for implementers of the Geolocation API: > > User Agents must not send location information to websites without > express permission of the user. Browsers should acquire permission > through a user interface which will include the URI of the document > origin. All permissions should be revocable, and User Agents should > respect revoked permissions. FWIW, I agree with Angel that the "shoulds" above should be "musts." If the whole section is going to be non-normative anyway, what's the harm? > > > Some User Agents will have prearranged trust relationships that do not > require such user interfaces. To ensure that the sentence above doesn't swallow the considerations for implementers entirely, I would say something like, "In limited circumstances, certain User Agents will have. . .." Otherwise every UA could claim to have "prearranged trust relationships." > For example, a Web browser will present > a user interface when a Web site performs a geolocation request. > However, a voip telephone may not present any user interface when > using location information to perform an E911 function. > > Privacy considerations for recipients of location information: > > The two primary concerns regarding recipients of location information > are retention and retransmission. I'm not so sure that this is true. A design decision was made within Geopriv to include default privacy rules about retention and retransmission, but that decision was based on several factors, with level of "concern" being only one of them. As the rest of this paragraph explains, there are other privacy considerations besides retention and retransmission (use, disclosure, etc.), so I'm not sure how much value is added by declaring that two of these are "primary." I would drop this sentence. Before getting into use limitation as the next sentence does, it might make sense to say something about limiting collection, such as: Web sites must only request location when necessary. This might seem really obvious, but a surprising amount of data collection goes on "just because" (look at how much data most Facebook apps collect compared to what they need to deliver their services). This trend has made collection limitation a pretty standard privacy principle. > Recipients must only use the > location information for the task for which it was provided to them > and must dispose of it once completed, unless expressly permitted to > do so. Nit: It is unclear what the phrase "to do so" refers to in the above sentence -- using the information for other tasks, or retaining it beyond the completion of a task? Suggestion: Recipients must only use location information for the task for which it was provided to them. Recipients must dispose of location information once that task is completed, unless they are expressly permitted to retain it by the user. > Recipients must also take measures to protect this information > against unauthorized access. If location information is stored, users > should be allowed to update and delete this information. The recipient > of location information should not retransmit the location information > without the user’s consent. To stay consistent with the rest of this text, the sentence above should say "user's express consent." Also, both of the "shoulds" in the above should be "musts." > Care should be taken when retransmitting > and use of HTTPS is encouraged. Furthermore, a clear and accessible > privacy policy should be made available to all users that details the > usage of location data. This disclosure suggestion is a little limiting if the words "privacy policy" are interpreted to mean the usual long privacy statement linked at the bottom of a Web site. It might make sense to leave some room for disclosure in other places. It could also be more clear about what needs to be disclosed -- there is a pretty standard set of items that are usually disclosed in notices like this. Suggestion: Recipients must clearly and conspicuously disclose the fact that they are collecting location data, the purpose for the collection, how long the data is retained, how the data is secured, how the data is shared if it is shared, how users may access, update and delete the data, and any other choices that users have with respect to the data. This disclosure must include an explanation of any exceptions to the guidelines listed above. Best, Alissa > > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Dirk Segers > <dirk.segers@vodafone.com> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Looks very good to me, just 2 minor suggestions below. >> >> Regarding the example of calling emergency services : as in Europe >> the >> passing of the location is mandatory for calls to emergency services, >> for Europe the wording "may not" would even be "is not allowed to"... >> > > Ok, but I think it's fine to keep as is, since that sentence shows > just an example of when it is reasonable not to present a user > interface before acquiring the user's location. > >> Regarding the two primary concerns with the recipients of geolocation >> information, one might add a 3rd one (or alternatively include it in >> "data retention" more explicitly), being the concern to ensure proper >> protection of the geolocation data with the recipient (eg against >> unauthorised access by the staff of the website owner and/or access >> to >> these data by unauthorised 3rd parties). > > Added the following sentence "Sites must also take measures to protect > this information against unauthorized access". Do you think we need to > be more specific than this? > >> Also if this aspect is covered >> by the privacy policy we might want to mention it explicitly here as >> well. >> > > I'm not sure I fully understand. Should we explicitly mention that the > privacy policy may say something about how the location information is > protected against unauthorized access? I've added a sentence that > explains how does the privacy policy relate to this guidelines. Would > you think that is enough? > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Angel Machín > <angel.machin@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Andrei, >> >> >> IMHO, I think it should be: "permissions *must* be revocable, and >> applications *must* respect revoked permissions". >> >> If User Agents store these permissions internally they have to be >> revocable >> by users at any time and the UI must allow it. > > As these sections are meant to be guidelines, I think we should be > using the verb "should" in all cases except where we have a good > reason not to. We're saying that the location must not be disclosed > without user consent but, beyond that, I think the verb "should" is > the appropriate one. > > Thanks, > Andrei > -- ---------------------------------------------------- Alissa Cooper Chief Computer Scientist Center for Democracy and Technology 202 637 9800 x110 acooper@cdt.org http://www.cdt.org/
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