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Re: wording for the privacy section

From: John Morris <jmorris@cdt.org>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:04:01 -0400
Message-Id: <a0624080bc52d90e36931@[]>
To: "Aaron Boodman" <aa@google.com>
Cc: "Doug Turner" <doug.turner@gmail.com>, "Thomson, Martin" <Martin.Thomson@andrew.com>, "Jon Ferraiolo" <jferrai@us.ibm.com>, "Andrei Popescu" <andreip@google.com>, public-geolocation <public-geolocation@w3.org>

Aaron, my response to Ian tries to explain why I think it is a bad 
idea to rely simply on the good faith of the browser makers.....  John

At 7:39 PM -0700 10/28/08, Aaron Boodman wrote:
>On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:52 PM, John Morris <jmorris@cdt.org> wrote:
>>  According to the charter, the objective of this WG is "to define a SECURE
>>  AND PRIVACY-SENSITIVE INTERFACE for using client-side location information
>>  in location-aware Web applications."  To simply assert in a spec that any
>>  implementation MUST take privacy into account while being silent on HOW to
>>  do so accomplishes nothing, and will do absolutely nothing to change the
>>  norm - which is to wholly ignore privacy.  It is crystal clear from both the
>>  charter and the list discussion that that the spec being proposed will be
>>  used in broad diversity of use cases (not just manual user input of
>>  location), and simply waiving a privacy wand over the whole effort does not
>>  constitute a "secure and privacy-sensitive interface."  It constitutes
>>  business-as-usual by leaving privacy for someone else to worry about (and
>>  ultimately for the end user to lose out on).
>This spec is intended to be implemented primarily by web browsers. I
>don't see what reason there is to believe that web browser developers
>would ignore privacy. In fact, as far as I'm aware, all current
>implementations require user permission before divulging location to
>applications. This makes sense since any browser which abused users'
>privacy would quickly lose them.
>- a
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