- From: Erik Wilde <dret@berkeley.edu>
- Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:46:03 -0700
- To: Chris Butler <cbutler@dash.net>
- CC: public-geolocation@w3.org
i think the problem with this kind of "semantics-altering optional
parameter" is that i would bet that in 99.9% of implementations, when i
use a date and specified "CALSCALE:AZTEC", they would still treat all
dates as gregorian.
Chris Butler wrote:
> Hi everyone.
>
> One option would be to do something similar to what the iCal RFC did
> with calendar types:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2445#section-4.7.1
>
> In the iCal case only Gregorian was ever used, but I believe the thought
> was that eventually you could have Julian, Hijiri, Hebrew, Aztec, etc.
>
> In the geo case there may be only one for now (WGS84) but it allows for
> extension of that...
>
> Thanks.
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-geolocation-request@w3.org
> [mailto:public-geolocation-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Erik Wilde
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:00 AM
> To: public-geolocation@w3.org
> Subject: Re: The Geolocation API must provide location data in terms of
> a pair of latitude and longitude coordinates.
>
>
> Jon Ferraiolo wrote:
>> For lay people (such as me) who until now have never heard the term
>> "geodetic system" before, perhaps the API can have the ability to
> return
>> a simple lat/long value but somewhere inside the spec there can be an
>> explanation of which geodetic system (or whatever the proper term is)
> is
>> used by default.
>
> it seems that wgs84 more or less is the de-facto standard for
> lat/long values these days, but that definitely needs to be specified.
> if you do have a gps, it very likely has some configuration screen where
>
> you can choose from a number of reference systems. this is important
> when you want to look up coordinates on a paper map: if the gps
> reference system and you map's coordinate system do not match, it is
> very hard to actually locate the coordinates on the map (the
> transformations can be fairly complex).
>
> as for elevation values, the reference system is much more important.
> devices can and do use different reference systems, or they may even use
>
> barometric elevation measurements (which tend to be more precise,
> depending on the number of satellite fixes), so for the elevation to
> make any sense, there definitely needs to be a reference system. and
> because it is entirely reasonable for a device to use gps values for
> lat/long and barometric values for the elevation, the reference system
> cannot be just one for the complete location, it must be specific for
> these values.
>
> and like i mentioned earlier, and somehow going in the same direction, i
>
> am very interested in the API supporting URI-based locations. in a way,
> this is just another "reference system", where instead of lat/long
> values, the location is defined by a URI scheme. like i said, i am not
> very happy with the current geo: scheme proposal (in particular the
> latest version of it, which switched to a tile-based scheme), but
> narrowing down location to lat/long only is a rather limited location
> concept.
>
> in particular, location URIs can provide a good solution for come of the
>
> privacy issues of the location API. URI-based location may use
> coordinate-based lat/long locations (such as proposed by the current
> geo: scheme draft), but they could also represent locations providing
> better privacy, such as city names, states, or entirely user specific
> locations, which still make sense in the context of interactions among
> closed user groups (e.g. on social networking sites), but have far fewer
>
> privacy implications than gps-precision coordinates.
>
> cheers,
>
> dret.
>
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