Re: HTML5 was: Scope Proposal

I think language may be overkill. I am, however in creating programming
interface standards for web game development at a framework level. That is
one of the major goals of Abacus:
https://github.com/Abacus/Abacus/wiki/goals

That being said, I encourage you to make a new language!

I think dart and coffeescript both push the open web platform forward (even
if I would never use them).

-Boaz
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Boaz Sender
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355 Congress St, Boston MA, 02210


On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:12 AM, jonathan chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btconnect.com
> wrote:

> my email 'Syntax and vocabulary' was perhaps overtly obscurantist.
>
> the underlying concern expressed is whether the members of this community
> are solely interested in HTML5 as a gaming platform,
> or wether there is a quorum interested in conceiving and developing a web
> gaming language to which HTML5 is merely a stepping stone.
>
> cheers
>
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> On 10 Nov 2011, at 08:36, Conceiro Igueregui, Alexander wrote:
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> I think that if you´re using HTML5 technologies is assumed that you are
> targeting mobile devices also (maybe in the long run) not only desktop. At
> least that is our case.****
> But maybe, you're right and there's a need to differenciate needs for
> mobile users. We're not seeing any word on mobile devices in some proposed
> specs and would be of interest to us if we can target different devices
> using the same codebase and API (obvious).****
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> my 0,02 cents****
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>  *De:* Lars Knudsen [mailto:larsgk@gmail.com]
> *Enviado el:* jueves, 10 de noviembre de 2011 5:42
> *Para:* Boaz Sender
> *CC:* Grady Laksmono; Andrew Baker; w3c@marcosc.com;
> gmthundercat@gmail.com; public-games@w3.org; scheib@google.com
> *Asunto:* Re: Scope Proposal****
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> I think it looks good.  However, I'd like to hear if people think there
> might be a reason to include some specification on what would be
> recommended for desktop, mobile and anything between?  The reason for this
> question is that I had the impression in our group talk that most people
> were primarily focusing on the desktop side of things, while mobile might
> have different needs.  Some features will even be done very differently
> while addressing a similar issue (like the mouse lock + fullscreen +
> orientation lock discussion we had).  There would probably also be
> different hardware considerations.****
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> just my EUR 0.02****
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> - Lars****
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Boaz Sender <boaz@bocoup.com> wrote:****
> I've tried to synthesize everyone's suggestions in this charter:****
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> """****
> The goal of the games community group is to improve the quality of open
> web standards that game developers rely on to create games. This is done by:
> ****
>   * Tracking specifications and vendor implementations related to open web
> games.****
>   * Recommending new specifications to be produced and finding working
> group homes for them.****
>   * Refining use cases to communicate specific needs of games. ****
>   * Evangelizing specifications to browser vendors.****
>   * Documenting how to best use open web standards for games****
>   * Evangelizing open web standards to game developers and game
> development best practices to web developers****
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> The games community group will not develop any specifications, and thus,
> there will not be any Essential Claims under the W3C Contributor License
> Agreement or Final Specification Agreement.****
> """****
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> Any last words before we publish it tomorrow?
>
> -Boaz
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> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Grady Laksmono <glaksmono@zynga.com>
> wrote:****
> It's probably meant following web standards for maximum performance?****
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>  *From: *Andrew Baker <andrew_j_baker2@hotmail.com>
> *Date: *Wed, 9 Nov 2011 07:12:45 -0800
> *To: *"w3c@marcosc.com" <w3c@marcosc.com>, "gmthundercat@gmail.com" <
> gmthundercat@gmail.com>
> *Cc: *"public-games@w3.org" <public-games@w3.org>, "scheib@google.com" <
> scheib@google.com>, "boaz@bocoup.com" <boaz@bocoup.com>
> *Subject: *RE: Scope Proposal****
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> Are we interested in quality? Or suitability? Or both?****
> > Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 16:10:47 +0100
> > From: w3c@marcosc.com
> > To: gmthundercat@gmail.com
> > CC: public-games@w3.org; scheib@google.com; boaz@bocoup.com
> > Subject: Re: Scope Proposal
> >
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> >
> > On Tuesday, November 8, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Ben Adams wrote:
> >
> > > > > The goal of the games community group is to improve the quality of
> games the can be built using open web standards. This is done by:
> > > >
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> > I don't think this is accurate: we don't improve the quality of games,
> only game developers can do that.
> >
> > It should read:
> >
> > The goal of the games community group is to improve the quality of open
> web standards that game developers rely on to create games.
> >
> >
> >
> >****
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