TELECON AGENDA - 23 JUL 2008

Regrets so far: Steven, John 
Start Time: 10:45am Eastern US (15:45Z, except 14:45Z during US DST)
Duration: 90 minutes 

Previous minutes: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0035.html
IRC supplement: http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-forms-minutes.html

Minute takers rotation list, when not done by Leigh: 
Joern, Blake, Kenneth, David, Rafael, MarkB, MarkS, Raman, Sebastian 
Erik, Susan, Nick, Keith, Ulrich, Rogelio, Charlie, Steven 

AGENDA ITEMS: 
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* = be ready to discuss 

REPORTS (0 minutes) 
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Upcoming telecons 
- Summer availability questionnaire: 
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/32219/formssummer08/
- Nick to chair July 16 and 23 

XForms Event 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0032.html

Next FtF (October 15-16 Virtual, Oct. 20-21 Cannes) 
- Overview: http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/
- Registration: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2008/
- Schedule: http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/Schedule
- Need zakim booking from adminreq@w3.org by 10 October 2008 

- Meetings needed? Spread-the-word activities? 
webapps (m12n, js lib), HTML, CDF (mustUnderstand), XML Sec 

The Forms Newsletter 

- XForms 1.1 
- Need Appendix E Input Mode changes from Steven 
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0024.html
- Need SOAP, encoding and charset changes from John 
* Implementation report progress? 

XForms Basic 1.0, 1.1 

Rich Web Application Backplane 


ACTION ITEMS (0 minutes) 
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Action Item List: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0032.html

BUG FIX ISSUES (10 minutes) 
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xsi:nil, XBRL and impact on forms 
* http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0073.html
    (also about xsi:nill : 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0066.html)

XBRL 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008May/0011.html

The meaning of message 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0013.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0012.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0011.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0010.html

The repeat-* attributes 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006OctDec/0232.html


ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES (0 minutes) 
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- XML Base PER response 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0011.html

- XSD 1.1 last call review deadline 12 Sept. 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0059.html

- Forms Task Force 
- Latest: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms-tf/2008Jun/0000.html
- Architecture alignment strawman: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0068.html

Fix our shortname issue 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0096.html
http://www.w3.org/2005/05/tr-versions

Marketing of XForms 
Name/Tagline: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0060.html
Community: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0054.html


FUTURE VERSION ISSUES (80 minutes) 
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- Module bundling into fewer specs 

* Draft Instance Data Module 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0001.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0008.html

- Binding Attributes Module 
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/modules/instance/bindingAttributes/index-all.html

- XPath functions still to be moved into another module, except context() 
- Where do definitions of "dependency", "reference", etc. live? 
- Should do a deep dive on details. 
- This discussion will be affected by outcome of module bundling 
discussion 

- We should automate boolean-from-string() on the boolean MIPs (relevant, 
readonly, constraint) 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0069.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0077.html

- Validity notification on initial or hidden data 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008May/0015.html
- Isn't it about time we add an xforms-control-initialize event? 

- The Actions Module
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0028.html

* The Bind Module
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0028.html


The xforms-hide feature suggestion 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0035.html



XForms 2.0 
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Refactor dependencies to detect automatic rebuild conditions and reduce 
circular dependencies 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/att-0069/2008-05-28.html#topic6


Make progress on Model improvements (optional model, nested model, 
external model) 
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Make_model_optional
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Nested_models_for_convenient_grouping_and_composition

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Externally_defined_models_with_src_attribute


xforms-submit-done response-body and host language submission result 
targeting 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0048.html
Discussed 21 May 2008; perhaps only for replace="none" 

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