- From: carlo von lynX <lynx@time.to.swarm.psyced.org>
- Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 22:27:21 +0100
- To: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>
- Cc: hellekin <hellekin@gnu.org>, Andreas Kuckartz <a.kuckartz@ping.de>, socialswarm-discussion@ml.foebud.org, "public-fedsocweb@w3.org" <public-fedsocweb@w3.org>
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 05:33:10PM +0100, Harry Halpin wrote: > Given that we want our work to run cross-platform (including on > mobile) and p2p networks still all suffer from sybil attacks, the > W3C is going to focus on Web. The phrase "p2p networks still all suffer from sybil attacks" says more about rethoric strategies than about p2p networks. Reminds me of climate experts on TV. Anyway, here is a choice of scientific papers on the topic suggesting that sybil attacks can be countered (and GNUnet does so, but even Tor: what do you achieve with a sybil attack on Tor?). Are you suggesting all these independent scientists are wrong and we should in no way dare to use evil evil P2P technology? Resnick, P, Sami, R - Sybilproof Transitive Trust Protocols https://gnunet.org/node/1454 Gamiochipi, RLL, Griffin, D, Clegg, RG, Mykoniati, E, Rio, M - A Sybilproof Indirect Reciprocity Mechanism for Peer-to-Peer Networks https://gnunet.org/node/1850 Cheng, A, Friedman, E - Sybilproof reputation mechanisms https://gnunet.org/node/1381 Levine, BN, Shields, C, Margolin, BN - A Survey of Solutions to the Sybil Attack https://gnunet.org/node/1432 Cholez, T, Chrisment, I, Festor, O - Evaluation of Sybil Attacks Protection Schemes in KAD https://gnunet.org/node/1512 Al-Ameen, MN, Wright, M - Persea: A Sybil-resistant Social DHT https://gnunet.org/persea Yang, Z, Wilson, C, Wang, X, Gao, T, Zhao, BY, Dai, Y - Uncovering social network sybils in the wild https://gnunet.org/node/1748 Yu, H, Kaminsky, M, Gibbons, PB, Flaxman, A - SybilGuard: defending against sybil attacks via social networks https://gnunet.org/node/1466 See, GNUnet even runs the vastest bibliography on the topic. Guess what, secushare is planning to use its social network to further decrease risks of sybil attacks for GNUnet. Now please point me to the papers that explain how all P2P networks suffer from sybil attacks. > We are happy to see other approaches, and do keep us in touch, but > any non-Web solution is out of scope in general for W3C Working > Groups. Good luck with GNUnet and other approaches! That is a short-sighted point of view considering that these platforms are already offering higher security web services than the W3C web currently can offer. Public-key based routing is safer than X.509 and any of .i2p, .onion or .gnu offer that kind of superior security compared to https. It is no surprise more and more websites are going light.. to where authenticity and confidentiality is actually provided. Not to mention the shift from the ancient client/mainframe model to the new P2P share and distribute models, which I expect to take place next. In that context the web is just a bunch of HTML+CSS files traveling the Internet free from ties to GoogleEtagServices.com and the like. HTTP's share of network traffic will decrease. There's a revolution going on, not only in Ukraine. -- http://youbroketheinternet.org ircs://psyced.org/youbroketheinternet
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