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Re: Federation protocols

From: Darrell Prince` <prince.darrell@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 11:56:32 -0400
Message-ID: <CAP761QJnZk6HMhh=3_93hn=zJrEbJA1r0T=SejKZzx6oUbuEAg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Simon Tennant <simon@buddycloud.com>
Cc: "public-fedsocweb@w3.org" <public-fedsocweb@w3.org>
Done correctly; standardized storage,  or digital identities for most real
world entities, allows for context and a much greater understanding of the

Right now, even with pictures on facebook, no context, no real structure to
the data, nor control over your feed. It's the differnece between the
puzzle in the box, all the data still there.. why bother putting it
together? Well, because I can't even tell from individual pieces what "IT"
is. I just know a little bit about the piece I can see.

 The possibilities for data mining, and true connection, understanding of
ourselves and our world, is in and of itself more than a wonder of the
world, it is literally a turning point in human history.

Take for example medicine, imagine if the final system is individual blind
aggregate open source on medical records.  Find all similarities between
people who have heart attacks by age 56.

Imagine being able to detect environmental problems, by unusual geographic
trends in something like lung capacity, which you can cross reference with
smoking use.

By the same token, I want to OWN my data. I don't want 20,000 profiles and
passwords. I want someone or something to ask me for permission to view
certain information, and say yes or no, and have it not be permanent. I
want retinal scan and access to everything I ever worked on, and a good
filter for it.

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Simon Tennant <simon@buddycloud.com>wrote:

> On 31 May 2013 16:52, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak <rysiek@fwioo.pl> wrote:
>> > What do you think the reasons for Facebook's success were? Why did users
>> > leave Myspace for Facebook?
> There were Terms of Service changes that were definitely not to users'
>> liking,
>> which incidentally were similar to what Instagram did after being bought
>> by
>> Facebook. Of course that was a minor issue, but issue none the less (I
>> remember talking to my friends in ~2008 about it, and it was a factor in
>> their
>> decision to ditch MySpace).
> There's a huge friction to switching and you haven't identified what
> Facebook was doing differently to encourage users to move over. Why were
> early adopters joining before their friends were on Facebook?
> I'd argue that facebook was simple and easy to use and solved a problem
> that college students had very very well. And kept iterating. I'd also
> argue that their introduction of the App platform gave the product a second
> life and helped create an ecosystem of developers that wanted to build
> products for the end users.
> So what is the problem that open social networks will solve very very well?
> S.
> PS: I disagree on the super-federated diaspora-buddycloud-pump network
> being a silver bullet because I expect there's a 90% user overlap on each
> of them :)
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