Re: On privacy and cloud services

On 13 June 2013 22:48, Daniel Smith <opened.to@gmail.com> wrote:

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> Thanks for you response, Melvin.
> Even in my ignorance, can I ask you (or anone else here) if there does
> exist
> a social platform that can incorporate end-to-end encryption?
> Just wondering
>

You may want to look at:

http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/



> Dan Smith
> Houston
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> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com
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>> On 12 June 2013 00:05, Daniel Smith <opened.to@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Well I am just trying to learn about the federated social web, I am
>>> actually going to start my own
>>> web mag about it. I was already going to do it, but esp in light of this
>>> recent PRISM finding, I am
>>> definitely going to do it now. BTW, I have a great name for it, which i
>>> will reveal when I buy the last
>>> domain for it. It is a great name, if i do say so myself, in tribute to
>>> the early predecessors of four-letter
>>> site names like word.com and esp the ironical or more edgy names like
>>> fray.com.
>>> I am also changing my meetup here in Houston from one dealing with
>>> Twitter Bootstrap, which frankly never went
>>> anywhere, to one centering on the Federated Social Web Space.
>>> But my question, is aren't current developments like Diaspora* and
>>> Friendica and their Red network
>>> products that are going in this direction?
>>> Though, don't get me wrong, I realize that the concept of private phone
>>> calls or messaging seems remote.
>>> Also, could someone point me to either books or sites that deal with the
>>> overall concepts and technologies involved in federation?
>>>
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>> Diaspora started with the aim of end to end encryption, but gave up on
>> that goal pretty early.
>>
>> If you talk to 10 people about the social web, you'll probably get 10
>> different opinions.
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>> I would suggest learning about the standards that are out there on the
>> web (and what a standard actually is) and how they can be used to grow the
>> network effect.
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>>>  Thanks for any help.
>>> Daniel Smith
>>> Houston
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak <
>>> rysiek@fwioo.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dnia wtorek, 11 czerwca 2013 o 08:49:09 Goix Laurent Walter napisał(a):
>>>>
>>>> > Le 11 juin 2013 à 03:21, "Evan Prodromou" <evan@e14n.com> a écrit :
>>>> > > On 13-06-10 05:27 AM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote:
>>>> > >> <rant> I am just afraid that we do not have anything to offer
>>>> instead
>>>> > >> of the centralised, surveilled services. All we have is a myriad of
>>>> > >> incompatible protocols. </rant>
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Setting up a social server for your family and friends on a server
>>>> you
>>>> > > control is a step in the right direction.
>>>> >
>>>> > +1. Unfortunately i was never able to get my parents one installed on
>>>> their
>>>> > own... Even Friendica that has a preconfigured vm is not easy enough.
>>>> I
>>>> > understand there is no technical challenge here protocol-wise but in
>>>> terms
>>>> > of user adoption that's a big hurdle. Is anyone working in that
>>>> direction
>>>> > and/or of a simple windows app?
>>>>
>>>> The work is being done on the next step, the totally de-centralised
>>>> "social
>>>> networks" look-alikes:
>>>> http://sneer.me/
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroshare
>>>>
>>>> These are, as I stated before, the future IMVHO, but they are still far
>>>> from
>>>> being useful and usable enough.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Pozdrawiam
>>>> Michał "rysiek" Woźniak
>>>>
>>>> Fundacja Wolnego i Otwartego Oprogramowania
>>>>
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