Fwd: On privacy and cloud services

Thanks for you response, Melvin.
Even in my ignorance, can I ask you (or anone else here) if there does exist
a social platform that can incorporate end-to-end encryption?
Just wondering
Dan Smith
Houston


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Melvin Carvalho
<melvincarvalho@gmail.com>wrote:

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> On 12 June 2013 00:05, Daniel Smith <opened.to@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Well I am just trying to learn about the federated social web, I am
>> actually going to start my own
>> web mag about it. I was already going to do it, but esp in light of this
>> recent PRISM finding, I am
>> definitely going to do it now. BTW, I have a great name for it, which i
>> will reveal when I buy the last
>> domain for it. It is a great name, if i do say so myself, in tribute to
>> the early predecessors of four-letter
>> site names like word.com and esp the ironical or more edgy names like
>> fray.com.
>> I am also changing my meetup here in Houston from one dealing with
>> Twitter Bootstrap, which frankly never went
>> anywhere, to one centering on the Federated Social Web Space.
>> But my question, is aren't current developments like Diaspora* and
>> Friendica and their Red network
>> products that are going in this direction?
>> Though, don't get me wrong, I realize that the concept of private phone
>> calls or messaging seems remote.
>> Also, could someone point me to either books or sites that deal with the
>> overall concepts and technologies involved in federation?
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> Diaspora started with the aim of end to end encryption, but gave up on
> that goal pretty early.
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> If you talk to 10 people about the social web, you'll probably get 10
> different opinions.
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> I would suggest learning about the standards that are out there on the web
> (and what a standard actually is) and how they can be used to grow the
> network effect.
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>>  Thanks for any help.
>> Daniel Smith
>> Houston
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>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak <rysiek@fwioo.pl
>> > wrote:
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>>> Dnia wtorek, 11 czerwca 2013 o 08:49:09 Goix Laurent Walter napisał(a):
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>>> > Le 11 juin 2013 à 03:21, "Evan Prodromou" <evan@e14n.com> a écrit :
>>> > > On 13-06-10 05:27 AM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote:
>>> > >> <rant> I am just afraid that we do not have anything to offer
>>> instead
>>> > >> of the centralised, surveilled services. All we have is a myriad of
>>> > >> incompatible protocols. </rant>
>>> > >
>>> > > Setting up a social server for your family and friends on a server
>>> you
>>> > > control is a step in the right direction.
>>> >
>>> > +1. Unfortunately i was never able to get my parents one installed on
>>> their
>>> > own... Even Friendica that has a preconfigured vm is not easy enough. I
>>> > understand there is no technical challenge here protocol-wise but in
>>> terms
>>> > of user adoption that's a big hurdle. Is anyone working in that
>>> direction
>>> > and/or of a simple windows app?
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>>> The work is being done on the next step, the totally de-centralised
>>> "social
>>> networks" look-alikes:
>>> http://sneer.me/
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroshare
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>>> These are, as I stated before, the future IMVHO, but they are still far
>>> from
>>> being useful and usable enough.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Pozdrawiam
>>> Michał "rysiek" Woźniak
>>>
>>> Fundacja Wolnego i Otwartego Oprogramowania
>>>
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