Re: rough consensus and running code [was: Federation protocols]

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak <rysiek@fwioo.pl>wrote:

> Dnia czwartek, 13 czerwca 2013 o 02:07:50 Melvin Carvalho napisał(a):
> > On 13 June 2013 00:58, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net>
> wrote:
> > > Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote:
> > >>  Yup... rough consensus and running code, then the market tends to
> drive
> > >>
> > >>> what gets adopted.
> > >>
> > >> What the rough consensus is, please, can you tell me? Or point to a
> > >> document
> > >> that describes it?
> >
> >
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-resnick-on-consensus/?include_text=1
>
> As I already stated, I do understand what a rough consensus is in general.
>
> I am having hard time finding out what the rough consensus is in the
> particular case of federated social web -- apart from "it's impossible and
> not
> doable, leave it", but if it is indeed the rough consensus of this list,
> why
> does this list even exist?
>
>
That's not what people are saying. I've seen several people explain their
perspectives on how they are trying to achieve the same end goal as you,
they've tried to answer your initial questions with their honest take on
why we are where we are, why previous attempts have failed,  and what
they've learned from it - what they are working on right now -etc.

It begins to lower the mutual value of this discussion when you put words
in peoples mouths, and accuse anyone that doesn't agree with you that they
are saying it's all impossible and that they are advocating not do anything.