Re: RE : Re: Federation protocols

Ok. So, I get open source, and I get that Android is Terminator style
running down I phone buuuut it's also big corporate money so not not top
down either. VLC is the best player I've ever used.  But let's NOT get it
twisted. Steve Jobs DOMINATED the market, and the face of innovation. I
dunno how the market didn't get to the Ipod faster, I was sick of CD's
about 1995, or my 3rd  year with them and was praying for an mp3 player.
(though I never really liked the original I pod) The use of the mouse, the
GUI used by everything, the app store, much like the Republican agenda is
not, was Jobs, Jobs, Jobs. Android, mobile tech in general wouldn't be what
it is. Argue that.  The company is suffering now, because it was built on
Top Down, and they got a regular boring business type trying to be the
point at the top and he ain't got it like wonder Steve.  But bottom up is
what mister Wozniak is complaining about, and what I heard about w3c social
federated when I talked to the indieweb guy. Lack of focus.
I'm personally less interested in horizontality, than I am in truly
creative and continual progress towards things that are good, all opinions
getting heard, everyone getting a voice, and a chance to present and
technology that enhances, not becomes our lives. I am a firm believer in
top down of best ideas, to good ideas, to dumb ass ones. Horizontality in a
lot of places I have been have lead to a disproportionate strength of the
last.  I'd like to see power houses and intelligent ideas that don't come
from white males. Not that I care if they do come from them, but it seems
like they seem to be over repped.


Wozniak hold on.. I got some suggestions but tommorrow.


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Miles Fidelman
<mfidelman@meetinghouse.net>wrote:

> Nick Vidal wrote:
>
>> We can really stop looking for a killer feature right there and start,
>>> well, implementing it.
>>> Yup... rough consensus and running code, then the market tends to drive
>>> what gets adopted.
>>>
>> Even if we had a rough consensus and a very stable running code for a
>> federated social web, even so it would be complicated to make a dent
>> in Facebook's market. Even Google is struggling, despite having
>> thousands of the best developers and architects in its payroll. Just
>> look at how many of its products have flopped: Orkut, OpenSocial,
>> Wave, Buzz, Google+. The market is already monopolized and only
>> something truly innovative could disrupt it.
>>
>> However, Facebook has one huge weakness: its signal/noise ratio for
>> each user is very poor, and this is exactly where ISS/IM has
>> potential. Just take a few minutes from you time to have a serious
>> look at it. I appreciate it!
>>
>> http://ttn.iss.im/
>>
>
> Want to really establish an alternative to Facebook, start with:
> - MS Active Directory - pretty much what everyone is forced into at work
> - Shibboleth - pretty much what the entire worldwide university community
> uses for directory services
> - LDAP - pretty much what everyone in government works with
>
> And, oh, by the way,
> - Active Directory and Shibboleth are both LDAP and Kerberos underneath.
> - support is built into Windows, MacOS, and most browsers
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> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
> In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra
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