Re: ActivityPump API

On 21 September 2012 15:40, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:

> On 9/21/12 9:17 AM, Evan Prodromou wrote:
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>> On 12-09-20 05:15 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
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>>> On 9/20/12 5:06 PM, Evan Prodromou wrote:
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>>>> On 12-09-20 05:01 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
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>>>>> How is user 'bwk' identified by the system in question?
>>>>>
>>>> There's OAuth 1.0 authentication; see https://github.com/evanp/**
>>>> activitypump/blob/master/API.**md#authentication<https://github.com/evanp/activitypump/blob/master/API.md#authentication>
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>>>>> What about a shared outbox?
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>>> I assume an outbox is just a collection style of resource (like a
>>> folder) for outbound data associated with a specific user, right?
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>> More like a stream; it's an ordered list of activities with the most
>> recent activities first.
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> Okay, so its still a resource associated with representation, bottom line.
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>> But, yes, all stuff that has a single person as the "actor".
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> But, and this is important, it isn't architecturally desirable or feasible
> for "all stuff" to have a single "actor" due to identity modality, and
> ultimate implications etc.
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>  I'm a little confused on that; do you mean something like when
>>>> janeandfrank235@hotmail.com share an email address? Or more like a
>>>> group blog? Or more like a mailing list?
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>>> More like sharing blog, mail oriented resources, basically a folder
>>> accessible to more than one identity.
>>>
>> I think that an Activity Streams "group" would match more closely. I've
>> got plans to add groups in the near future, but tried to keep things simple
>> for this upcoming release.
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> A "group" is just another entity with its own set of characteristics.
> Identity dexterity issues don't go away just because you have a "group".
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>> In my mind, an activity sent to a group would be distributed to all
>> members of that group.
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> If you have a fine-grained mechanism for identifying the group and its
> members, at the core of the system.
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>  What happens when 'bwk' seeks to temporarily or permanently delegate
>>>>> privileges to others etc?
>>>>>
>>>>>  I'm also not sure I understand what you mean here.
>>>>
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>>> How a user can enable another user act on its behalf, thereby inheriting
>>> the privileges required for outbox access etc.. Basically, like a
>>> secretarial agent authorized to act on behalf of a boss.
>>>
>> That's not even close to being on my radar right now.
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> It doesn't have to be on your radar per se. You can use architecture to
> reduce such a burden on yourself. If there's one this to always remember
> about the Web, the system was designed to relieve TimBL and others of such
> burdens. That's the key to dexterous architecture.
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>> One thing that is close is letting people set up product or organization
>> accounts, and letting them post as that product or organization. Similar to
>> Facebook Pages or Google+'s thing, or even co-tweet ability in Twitter.
>> ("ReadWriteWeb says, 'Come check out our new blog post!'"). Is that kind of
>> what you're thinking?
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> Much more than that. I am trying to encourage you to put Web-scale
> verifiable identity at the core of what you do. It will reduce tax on time
> you don't have, down the line.
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> At this juncture, is there a particular issue that makes WebID problematic
> to you? Crack this nut once, and be done with it.


Kingsley, identi.ca were one of the first to give users a WebID 2-3 years
ago I believe.  Simply add #acct to the user profile.

Currently the UI does not allow the user to enter a public key, tho this
has been requested a few times.  Hopefully this will be actioned when
someone has some cycles.


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>> -Evan
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