Re: the possible impact of future changes in webfinger (was Re: Anonymity and multiple identities)

On 7 July 2012 12:57, Daniel Harris <daniel@kendra.org.uk> wrote:

> Yes! Good questions! Could you g(uy/irl)s please bring some clarity around
> these points?
>
> My main beef with this wonderful email process is that capturing the
> conclusions is well difficult.
>
> But if you g(uy/irl)s were doing this on a wiki and talking (by email)
> about the wiki as you went then we'd have something to show for all this
> great surge of activity.
>
> I wanna make all this fedsocweb happen. I'm running projects and raising
> money to build cool stuff. But I'm not uber techie. I need you guys to
> recommend the way forward to fulfil the glorious fedsocweb vision.
>
> Ah! Just looked on wiki and there *is* activity. I'll go review over next
> few days/weeks:
>
> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/federatedsocialweb/wiki/Main_Page
>

I'm going to write a document 'Web Federation Protocol' to show how you can
use existing web standards to federate, while inventing very little or
nothing new.  These techniques are being used in the 'wild' today, by some
of the social networks in our read write group.  But it extends to more
than just social (people, things, robots, content, services), social can be
considered one aspect of the web.  I'll post it to this list when im done,
in case anyone has interest :)


>
> Many thanks and carry on...
>
> Cheers Daniel
>
> On 7 Jul 2012, at 11:35, Michiel de Jong wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Melvin Carvalho
> > <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> After 3 years, I dont feel it's delivered on its promises,
> >
> > which promises were not delivered, and who can do (or who should have
> > done) what to fix that?
> >
> > how does this feeling affect how you now think identity should be
> > federated? should we use centralized search instead?
> >
> > Note that webfinger is important at the moment you action a friend
> > request. once two people are friends, you no longer need webfinger,
> > because you have other ways to communicate. But without webfinger, the
> > only way to send a friend request is by using a centralized database.
> >
> >> and the world has moved on.
> >
> > i was not aware of this - who is 'the world' here? to what did these
> > people move on? to having nothing?
> >
> >> I look forward to you, and other webfinger evangelists, proving me
> wrong.  :)
> >
> > if you decide to stand on the sideline saying "what you're doing is
> > never going to work" without helping to build something, then that
> > would be a great loss for this CG. Please help with doing the actual
> > wrong-proving! :)
> >
> > Concretely, what mechanism do you suggest for friend requests?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michiel
> >
>
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