Re: Appologies

Thank you Martin. I agree we're a long way away from where we want to be,
but we're also a lot better than the alternative that is already gaining
ground in the market. Thanks for your support on the FPWD and in
effectively capturing the concerns! Onward!

Rick

On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 9:33 PM Martin Thomson <mt@mozilla.com> wrote:

> Thanks Rick,
>
> I too should apologise.  Earlier this week I spent several hours trying to
> work out what the API did, unsuccessfully.  So my comments were grounded in
> that perspective, which I maintain is still a long way from acceptable as a
> specification or as an artifact that can be used to capture consensus.
> Still, I have been convinced by you (and others) that FPWD is necessary.
>
> FWIW, I really appreciate the work that has been done to improve the
> documentation of privacy issues, especially by Johann.  We might not have
> made a whole lot of resolutions in the past little while, but the quality
> of the documentation of those issues is vastly better.
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 11:31 PM Rick Byers <rbyers@google.com> wrote:
>
>> /cc public-fedid-wg@
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 9:02 AM Rick Byers <rbyers@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Martin,
>>> I just wanted to apologize for my outburst on the DC call yesterday. It
>>> was the wrong argument and even then I articulated it poorly. I do know you
>>> are working hard to try to get the same ecosystem outcome that I want with
>>> digital credentials and we just have different views about how to
>>> realistically increase the probability of getting to those outcomes while
>>> minimizing the risks of the bad outcomes. I appreciate the time and energy
>>> you are putting in to try to help guide the group and will endeavour to
>>> always remember to put that ahead of any frustration or differences of
>>> opinion going forward.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>    Rick
>>>
>>>