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Re: iso-thes namespace not resolvable

From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:27:27 +0100
To: Stella Dextre Clarke <stella@lukehouse.org>, Thomas Francart <thomas.francart@sparna.fr>
CC: Osma Suominen <osma.suominen@helsinki.fi>, "public-esw-thes@w3.org" <public-esw-thes@w3.org>, Douglas Tudhope <douglas.tudhope@southwales.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <ef4d74ab-ef86-fe16-eadd-fdf77958f3e8@few.vu.nl>
Hi Thomas, Christophe, Stella, everyone,

Mea culpa: I was co-responsible of the skos-thes namespace with Johan De Smedt. Before Johan passed away he gave me the codes to access that would allow to change the redirection when TenForce would shut down the servers where the files were. The problem is that when this happened, purl.org was transitioned to Internet Archive with a new login system, and I cannot enter it. In the past months, I have tried to reach to Internet Archive, but so far the communication has been very intermittent and they've not managed to give me access.
I guess there is a lesson to learn here in terms of reliability of the infrastructures for persistence...

For the moment Joachim has made a copy of the latest ISO skos-thes files:
http://zbw.eu/beta/external_identifiers/iso-thes/

I am still a bit hesitant before asking to change the namespace, as long as there is a hope with purl.org (and with TenForce).

Best,

Antoine
On 19/02/18 13:25, Stella Dextre Clarke wrote:
> Thomas,
> 
> I see Christophe Dupriez has tried again with Tenforce, and last week I sent a reminder to NISO. I do hope one of us will have some positive news soon. But in the meantime I know Antoine Isaac has been active too, and I'm sure he'll have some positive suggestions when time permits.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Stella
> 
> 
> On 19/02/2018 11:14, Thomas Francart wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> Does anyone has any news on the availability of the iso-thes namespace ?
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>> 2017-10-17 23:16 GMT+02:00 Stella Dextre Clarke <stella@lukehouse.org <mailto:stella@lukehouse.org>>:
>>
>>     Osma,
>>
>>     Thanks for pointing this out. As it happens, I've recently (with support also from Antoine Isaac) approached NISO to request that they find a place for the service on their server, as part of the official website for ISO 25964. They responded very promptly and I believe are willing, but unfortunately they are in the middle of moving all their stuff to a new website. So there will be a delay of a few weeks.
>>
>>     Sorry about that. I'll inform the list when we have clear news.
>>
>>     Stella Dextre Clarke
>>
>>     ---------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>     On 17/10/2017 14:09, Osma Suominen wrote:
>>
>>         Hi,
>>
>>         I've noticed that the iso-thes namespace (http://purl.org/iso25964/skos-thes# <http://purl.org/iso25964/skos-thes#>) is no longer resolvable. The PURL redirects to http://pub.tenforce.com/schemas/iso25964/skos-thes# <http://pub.tenforce.com/schemas/iso25964/skos-thes#> but the server pub.tenforce.com <http://pub.tenforce.com> doesn't exist anymore:
>>
>>         $ host pub.tenforce.com <http://pub.tenforce.com>
>>         Host pub.tenforce.com <http://pub.tenforce.com> not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
>>
>>         Does anyone on this list know anything more about the status of this RDF vocabulary? We use many of the SKOS extensions defined in this vocabulary and it would be very bad if it's gone for good.
>>
>>         There is a PURL so in principle it could be hosted somewhere else than under tenforce.com <http://tenforce.com>, as long as someone has a copy of the relevant material. The Internet Archive has a copy of the documentation from November 2016 (unchanged since April 2016):
>>         https://web.archive.org/web/20160401050633/http://pub.tenforce.com/schemas/iso25964/skos-thes/ <https://web.archive.org/web/20160401050633/http://pub.tenforce.com/schemas/iso25964/skos-thes/>
>>
>>         I'm not sure whether the RDF data is available from some secondary source.
>>
>>         -Osma
>>
>>
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