RE: SKOS tools?

Apologies for the commercial posting. 

Our desktop terminology editor (Lexaurus) is entirely format independent and
can create and edit many different formats (including SKOS xml, VDEX, Zthes
,XVD etc). 

http://www.vocman.com/?q=lexauruseditor


Cheers

Rob Tice



-----Original Message-----
From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org]
On Behalf Of Simon.Cox@csiro.au
Sent: 18 June 2009 02:53
To: public-esw-thes@w3.org
Cc: steve.richard@azgs.az.gov
Subject: SKOS tools?

Dear SKOS list - 

The GeoSciML project has been evaluating SKOS to implement its 'controlled
concpet' model (see
http://www.geosciml.org/geosciml/2.0/doc/GeoSciML/Vocabulary/package-summary
.html for the UML representation, and you'll see how SKOS is a close
match!). 
My colleague Steve Richard is the lead editor, on behalf of a consortium
including many of the world's leading geological surveys*, for around 25
vocabularies related to geology. 
This is a significant effort in the natural sciences. 

Being a happy old XML hacker I can tolerate RDF/XML and a text editor for
prototyping. 
But this obviously ain't acceptable for most users, doesn't scale to
production work, and fails to provide the consistency checking and
visualization that a proper editor would. 

We are mighty frustrated (and getting worse!) at the state of tool support. 
In particular, Protégé, even with the SKOS plugin, appears to be fatally
flawed. 
I've used it from time to time for _viewing_ a concept scheme, but have
never been able to successfully round trip through export/import, so it
doesn't work as an editor. 
Steve is now finding further flaws - see below - e.g. labels implemented as
objectProperty, no literal support or language attributes. 

This is all very disappointing. 
What tools are people people using successfully for development and
management of SKOS instances?

Simon Cox

(*) See http://onegeology.org/technical_progress/geosciml.html and
http://onegeology.org/participants/graphical_map.html 

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-----Original Message-----
From: stephen richard [mailto:steve.richard@azgs.az.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2009 9:31 AM
To: Cox, Simon (E&M, Kensington)
Subject: Re: [Auscope-geosciml] Simple lithology vocabulary in MMI
repository

Right now I'm mostly frustrated-
the new version of Protege (v4, released today) doesn't preserve language
attributes on prefLabel elements, and the SKOS tool models prefLabel as an
ObjectProperty, so you can't populate it with a literal, and it doesn't
appear to be consistent with the current SKOS spec.
What I started out to do was clean up the hierarchy in standardLithology,
which is a mess. The owl/SKOS tools looked like a possible way to do it.
Instead I've spun my wheels for 3 days. The idea is simply to be able to
round trip between GeologicVocabulary and some brand of SKOS, for which
there is a functional tool, build and fix hierarchies in SKOS, and convert
back to GeologicVocabulary to update in the BRGM repository. Meanwhile there
are the possibilities of vocabulary services that could assist with document
validation and better yet query resolution with hierarchical properties...

What's AuScope using for SKOS tools?

steve

Simon.Cox@csiro.au wrote:
> Steve
> Good hunting. 
>
> A few comments and a bit of an update about where the AuScope
vocabs/vocab-server work is at:
>
>
> i. Terms and Labels -
> skos:prefLabel, skos:altLabel, skos:hiddenLabel and skos:notation can and
should be used to support the assignment of multi-lingual terms, synonyms,
misspellings (!) and symbols to concepts, regardless of the encoding (OWL,
SKOS, other RDF languages). The semantics of these are clear and relevant to
our needs, and the rdfs:domain of all of these is unrestricted so they can
be applied to any rdf resource. 
>
>
...

--
Stephen M. Richard
Section Chief, Geoinformatics
Arizona Geological Survey
416 W. Congress St., #100
Tucson, Arizona, 85701 USA

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