- From: Peter Ansell <ansell.peter@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:41:55 +1000
- To: "Jonathan Chetwynd" <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
- Cc: "Alistair Miles" <alistair.miles@zoo.ox.ac.uk>, public-esw-thes@w3.org
I presume that there is a difference between the categorisation aspect where documents about children can be said at the "type" level to be also "about" their parent types. Assuming relationships at the concept/document property level goes further than the basic concept/document organisation aspect of skos, IMO. I don't think SKOS shouldn't reinvent the rigidity that OWL enforces if you take it strictly. Peter 2008/6/4 Jonathan Chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>: > Alistair, > as always with issues around logic, the reasoning isn't always apparent to > the outsider... > I'm not clear about your use of "necessarily", please can you expand > briefly? > ie what does "mammals have breasts" tell us about animals? > or "carrots are orange" tell us about vegetables? > other than some B can be D? but not necessarily? > and how does that relate to "animals are motile" not telling us about > mammals? > ie all mammals are motile? is necessarily? though... > cheers > ~:" > please excuse my ignorance in this field > > Jonathan Chetwynd > > j.chetwynd@btinternet.com > http://www.openicon.org/ > > +44 (0) 20 7978 1764 > > On 4 Jun 2008, at 10:14, Alistair Miles wrote: > > Hi all, > > I thought I'd write a quick comment on how "broader" interacts with the > notion of "aboutness", and how this could be captured formally. > > A common view is that, if some concept B is broader than A, then if a > document D is "about" A, D is necessarily also "about" B. > > (E.g. all documents "about" mammals are necessarily also "about" animals.) > > To capture this view formally using RDF and OWL, we first need an RDF > property to represent our notion of "aboutness". For the sake of > illustration, let's use dc:subject. > > We then express a property chain axiom. We say that the property chain > (dc:subject, skos:broader) is a sub-property of dc:subject. > > Now, given this property chain axiom, the graph > > <D> dc:subject <A>. > <A> skos:broader <B>. > > entails > > <D> dc:subject <B>. > > Notice that the property chain axiom causes the dc:subject link to > "propagate" up the concept hierarchy until it reaches the top. I.e. the > graph > > <D> dc:subject <A>. > <A> skos:broader <B>. > <B> skos:broader <C>. > > entails > > <D> dc:subject <B>, <C>. > > Notice also that this behaviour only depends on the property chain axiom. It > does not require that skos:broader be transitive. > > Cheers, > > Alistair. > > -- > Alistair Miles > Senior Computing Officer > Image Bioinformatics Research Group > Department of Zoology > The Tinbergen Building > University of Oxford > South Parks Road > Oxford > OX1 3PS > United Kingdom > Web: http://purl.org/net/aliman > Email: alistair.miles@zoo.ox.ac.uk > Tel: +44 (0)1865 281993 > > > > > >
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