- From: Aida Slavic <aida@acorweb.net>
- Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:27:40 +0100
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Jakob and Nabonita I forgot to mention that I was pleasantly surprised that you guys have more understanding about the need for supporting complex notation than most of 'classification experts' I met. I did not think that anybody was in favour of any specific classification - I only wanted to argue against over-simplification based on the easiest case. I think we all agree that it would be pity if SKOS would not at least attempt to offer some possibility for exchange of analytico-synthetic classifications as this is missing in MARC21 classification format and it is not certain how quckly this is going to be done in UNIMARC. I would personally like very much to see UDC distributed as SKOS data. To be more practical here I think the minimum would be the possibility to separate and search for parts of pre-composed numbers. I will use UDC examples to illustrate two typical situations as minimal requirements case 1: notation 75"19"(410)(0.034.2) Painting--20th century--U.K.--digital document main number--time(aux)--place(aux)--form(aux) case 2: notation 37:005.962-057.117 Education--Staff (management HR)--persons in casual employments main number [relation] main number -- persons (aux) Each part of these notation has the same meaning irespective its position in the expression and type of combination. >That's a problem. My colleage Ulrike Reiner is working on a way to >automatically split DDC numbers. After two years she has reached a >pretty good level and I think that this will be solved in about 1-2 >years - but it's very complex indeed. Well this sounds better than what Liu achieved in 1996. But I don't believe in this approach. This is successfully done for UDC in 1998 as a PhD project with very little wider application. I'd rather agree with Goedert (classification in general) and Steve Pollitt (with respect to DDC), Gopinath & Prasad (on CC) who suggested that in order to support IR (faceted interface in particular) classification should be properly coded for machine processing. This gives open hands in creating good faceted interfaces [see references at the end] Editor in chief of Dewey J. Mitchell mentioned in one of her papers that Dewey considered this to be done in their database. I think they actually coded facets when re-designing the db in 2004. >> a) in a limited way using four symbols and consistent principle of >> order: (relation), :: (relation fixed order), [] (subsumes], / >> (extension) b) in a complex and detailed way using common auxiliaries >> of phase relationships (-042) - it contains dozen different >> relationships and their subgroupings c) in a very sophisticated way >> by applying Perrault's symbols for relationsahips (from Perrault's >> "Towards the theory of UDC") >Wow! So how are we going to express this in SKOS? Yep. The problem is that one has to code relational symbol while the sequence from left to right also matters. Anyway, this is the problem with coding of syntax of any pre-ccordinated indexing language. My opinion is that this level of sophistication is very rarely needed in IR - I mentioned it only as a response to Nabonita's comment. If relational symbol is somehow tagged/indicated than it solves a great part of the problem - and if anyone needs this level of sophistication UDC has the way of expressing it. Reasonable simplification I thin SKOS should be concerned with is to split the precomposed number to its segments to allow for post-coordinate search. This is still better than nothing. In UNIMARC Classification format we have suggested subfield tag for each type of tables in the field of classification heading and control field $4 for relationship type. But this does not help in SKOS aida references LIU, S. (1990) "Online classification notation: proposal for a flexible faceted notation system", International Classification, 17 (1) 1990, 14-20. LIU, S. (1996) "Decomposing DDC synthesized numbers", 62nd IFLA General Conference Beijing, China, August 25-31, 1996. http://ifla.org/IV/ifla62/62-sonl.htm. GÖDERT, W. (1991a) "Facet classification in online retrieval", #International Classification, 18 (2) 1991, 98-105. GOPINATH, M. A.; PRASAD, A. R. D. (1994) "A knowledge representation model for analytico-synthetic classification", Knowledge organization and quality management : proceedings of the Third International ISKO Conference, 20-24 June 1994, Copenhagen, Denmark. Edited by H. Albrechtsen, S. Oernager. Frankfurt/Main : Indeks Verlag, 1994. (Advances in knowledge organization 4), 320-327. POLLITT, S. (1997) "Interactive information retrieval based on faceted classification using views", Knowledge organization for information retrieval : proceedings of the Sixth International Study Conference on Classification Research, London, 16-18 June 1997. The Hague : FID, 1997. (FID 716), 51-56. POLLITT, S. (1998) "The application of Dewey Classification in a view-based searching OPAC", Structures and relations in knowledge organization : proceedings of the Fifth International ISKO Conference, Lille, 25-29 August 1998. Edited by W. Mustafa Elhadi, J. Maniez, S. Pollitt. #Würzburg : Ergon Verlag, 1998. (Advances in knowledge organization 6), 176-183.
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