- From: Alexander Sigel <sigel@wim.uni-koeln.de>
- Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:07:50 +0100
- To: <public-esw-thes@w3.org>
Yes, there are copyright issues, but the argument that anyone can issue PSIs is not fundamentally flawed because of that, IMHO. Let's take as an example name authority data (not a thesaurus, but a referencing instrument for concepts), e.g. from the German national library (DDB PND) and from LoC. You are right that a knowledge worker may not be allowed to publish a certain _full_ entry. But in order to identify and later reference that PSI, we need only _enough identifying_ information (as attributes), not the full entry. This may also be a legal abridged paraphrase, or just the text "Please buy the content from the publisher (link, cost), open their ebook on p. 6290 and have a look at the third entry on that page. This is what I, the issuer of this PSI did. Now let's talk about the person referenced there". Nobody can prohibit me issuing this PSI and add information from other public sources. E.g. I can uniquely identify the Bezold, Friedrich von I am talking about if I put into my published description the note that it is the same person that is discussed as a member of the academy with all his publications in the open publication: http://www.bbaw.de/bibliothek/digital/struktur/autoren/bezold/literatur. pdf (Indeed http://www.bbaw.de/bibliothek/digital/struktur/autoren/bezold/ could be made a PSI) I can declare that the person identified by the DRA copy of LoC NA APK-5424 http://lcmarc.dra.com/lcauth/APK-5424 (me, in this case), is the same person as referenced by LoC NA n 2001009105, without breaking copyright. (I hope ...) Thus my PSI would maybe look like this: ----------------- Entry Sigel, Alexander URI http://purl.org/NET/psi/#Sigel_Alexander Human-interpretable Published Subject Indicator LoC NA: n 2001009105 copy @DRA: APK-5424 Explicit statement that this unique URI is to be used as the Published Subject Identifier for this Published Subject Indicator The unique URI http://purl.org/NET/psi/#Sigel_Alexander is to be used as the Published Subject Identifier for the Published Subject Indicator for "Sigel, Alexander" ----------------- I agree that some publishers might even prohibit using their number for referencing purposes. But then we are not discussing discouraging "unofficial" PSIs because of their proliferation, thus introducing disorder into the system, but questions of open referencing systems in which referencing systems for open content interlinking are to be recreated. What I meant was that in order to use the PSI for Item (in FRBR) I just have to define a PSI and do not need some extra permission. But I see the problem of KOSs publishers. DDB PND is used in the Kalliope-Portal, but can - until now -not be used as a referencing system, because DDB has not allowed this. The workaround is to publish some proxy subject, e.g. http://141.20.126.79/~voj/kalliope-gateway.php?autor=Bezold%2C+Friedrich +von lists the PND number 118662880 if the text string "Bezold, Friedrich von" is unique. Currently DDB checks if this is legal ... <topic id="12345"> <subjectIdentity> <subjectIndicatorRef xlink:href="http://purl.org/NET/psi/#PND_118662880"/> </subjectIdentity> <!-- names and occurrences --> </topic> In the end, we will be able to reference with decentrally provided PSIs. [Andrew Houghton] > I'm assuming it's not forbidden to allow KOS publishers to use PSI's in a private service > oriented context. > Some KOS publishers will not be willing to use PSI's due to intellectual property concerns, but > might be willing to provide opaque URI's to concepts in their KOS. Yes. Some KOS publishers might be willing to provide reference numbers (e.g. WBI - World Bibliographic Index person numbers) and a name, but not much more (e.g. dates, profession). Commercial KOS publishers might want to add some free content (like free chapters of books) for marketing/promotional purposes and to drive traffic to their site. The full content will cost money. The interesting question is: How much information in attributes is necessary to identify the concept (here: person) and how can this work with commercial publishers in conflict between their need for click streams and revenues and their legal interest in protecting their intellectual property. But this is not a technical issue and does not flaw the concept of decentrally issued PSIs in P2P fashion. Regards Alex ----- Alexander Sigel, M.A., Researcher in Semantic Knowledge Networking sigel@wim.uni-koeln.de, +49 221 470-5322, http://kpeer.wim.uni-koeln.de/ U Cologne, Dept. of Information Systems & Information Management office: Pohligstr. 1, Room 406, 50969 Cologne, GERMANY -----Original Message----- From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Houghton,Andrew Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 7:30 PM To: public-esw-thes@w3.org Subject: RE: Global concept identification and reference: Published Subjects and decentrally provided identification points for notions
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