Re: New fundamental test book and covers

What about other text that is on the cover image that is not otherwise included in the contents?

For example:
"New and updated for 2018"
"With a foreword by Fred Blogs"
"Part of the essential MBA series"
"Winner of the Montana Book Awards"
or
"For 28 years she's hidden the truth. And now her world is about to fall apart."

If this text is on the cover image, should it not also be in the alt?

Richard

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From: Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 7:52:35 PM
To: Tzviya - Hoboken Siegman
Cc: George Kerscher (montana); W3C EPUB 3 Community Group
Subject: Re: New fundamental test book and covers

The DIAGRAM Center has set up some best practices around this.
This is what we have and what we look for in our Certification program around cover image alt-text.

     Cover Image

•      Apply the principle of importance hierarchy. Start with the most important information on the cover; i.e., the title and the author.

•      Use the following templates:

o  "Cover: [title] by [authors]"

o   "Cover: [title], [edition of title] by [authors]"

o   "Cover: [title], edited by [name/s of editors]"

o  "Cover: [title], [edition of title], edited by [name/s of editors]"


•      Only if the image on the cover serves a purpose, follow with a brief description of the imagery. In most to all cases, there is no need for description, as the imagery on the cover is usually decorative.



Thanks
EOM
Charles LaPierre
Technical Lead, DIAGRAM and Born Accessible
Twitter: @CLaPierreA11Y
Skype: charles_lapierre
Phone: 650-600-3301

On Dec 6, 2018, at 11:38 AM, Siegman, Tzviya <tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>> wrote:

Thanks for clarifying, George. I think it’s a good idea to work on best practices for including author and title in the alt for cover.

Tzviya Siegman
Information Standards Lead
Wiley
201-748-6884<tel:201-748-6884>
tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>

From: George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com<mailto:kerscher@montana.com>>
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 2:28 PM
To: Siegman, Tzviya <tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>>; 'W3C EPUB 3 Community Group' <public-epub3@w3.org<mailto:public-epub3@w3.org>>
Subject: RE: New fundamental test book and covers

Hi,

I think that most RS use the metadata to present the title in their bookshelf. Because there is no alt text in our metadata to present , we are suggesting that the cover be the first item in the book content. Here, because it is HTML, we have the alt attribute available to present the essential information about the cover.

I think it is as simple as that. If there is another way, it would be good to know.

Best
George


From: Siegman, Tzviya <tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>>
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 11:22 AM
To: George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com<mailto:kerscher@montana.com>>; W3C EPUB 3 Community Group <public-epub3@w3.org<mailto:public-epub3@w3.org>>
Subject: RE: New fundamental test book and covers

Hi George,

I think I might not be fully understanding what you’re proposing. It seems to me that there are two possible solutions to users being unable to access author and title information from the bookshelf view. The first is to call upon the Reading Systems to expose the existing metadata to all users. The second is to establish best practices for authoring image descriptions for cover images to include the author and title and call upon reading systems to expose that users.

I am not sure that I understood what you meant about including the information in the first page of the book. How would a user be able to access the information from the bookshelf? Would you mind explaining the process that you are envisioning a bit more?

Thanks,
Tzviya

Tzviya Siegman
Information Standards Lead
Wiley
201-748-6884<tel:201-748-6884>
tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>

From: George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com<mailto:kerscher@montana.com>>
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 12:01 PM
To: W3C EPUB 3 Community Group <public-epub3@w3.org<mailto:public-epub3@w3.org>>
Subject: New fundamental test book and covers

Hi,

With EPUB 3, the metadata for a cover includes an image title and author. A blind person would not be able to get information about the cover in the Reading Systems bookshelf.

In our fundamental test book, we have included as the first page information about the cover image.

I have attached it here, and it is in the draft version of this title at:
http://dl.daisy.org/epub30-test-0300-20181129.epub

We  are fairly confident that any Reading System would not have a problem with this approach.

Is this something to consider as a best practice?

Best
George

George Kerscher Ph.D.
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