- From: Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 15:42:03 +0100
- To: public-eocred-schema@w3.org
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Yes, Stuart has correctly interpreted the text on the wiki, which became somewhat cryptic when removed from the summary of progress. The use case <https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Use_Cases#Renewal.2Fmaintenance_requirements> is that "Having found a credential it should be possible to identify what is required to renew or maintain the validity of that credential." We have partially addressed this by allowing someone to provide the length of time for which a credential is valid, but there remains no way to say what then needs to be done in that period in order to renew the credential and maintain its validity. I have clarified this on the wiki page. This is arguably closer to an unmet use case than an issue with how we met the use case, but either way what I am suggesting is that we leave it so, at least for the first submission to schema.org. If it turns out to be a significant shortcoming we can add something later. One reason for leaving it so it that it is likely to raise similar issues as came up when we discussed requirements other than competencies required to be eligible for a credential[1] Phil 1. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-eocred-schema/2018Mar/thread.html thread on EOCred: show other requirements On 04/06/18 13:58, Stuart Sutton wrote: > Bob, some credentials require the holder to go through a periodic > renewal process to keep his or her credential valid. I think the > reference to "renewal" means that there have been no proposals for new > or reuse of schema.org <http://schema.org> properties to express this > sort of requirement. The same for "maintenance" which I take to mean > expression of how the credential itself is reviewed periodically for > necessary updates etc. > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Bob Dolan <rdolan123@gmail.com > <mailto:rdolan123@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Issue 4 currently states "the actual renewal / maintenance > requirements aren't specified” — I’m not sure what this means. > > Bob > >> On Mar 30, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Stuart Sutton >> <stuartasutton@gmail.com <mailto:stuartasutton@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Phil, both validIn and validFor look straightforward. I'd hope we >> might tweak the definition of validFor a bit more and instead of >> ". "...time validity..." we use "...duration of validity..." >> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:07 AM, Phil Barker >> <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk <mailto:phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>> wrote: >> >> Drafts for coverage and duration of validity are now on the wiki. >> >> https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Duration_for_which_an_educational_/_occupational_credential_is_valid >> <https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Duration_for_which_an_educational_/_occupational_credential_is_valid> >> >> https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Show_the_geographic_area_in_which_educational_/_occupational_credential_is_recognised >> <https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Show_the_geographic_area_in_which_educational_/_occupational_credential_is_recognised> >> >> Phil >> >> On 26/03/18 17:07, Hugh Paterson III wrote: >>> Let's go for it! >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 6:22 AM, Phil Barker >>> <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk <mailto:phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>> wrote: >>> >>> Picking up from the discussion about 'other >>> requirements', Nate Otto suggested we align with >>> validFor <http://schema.org/validFor> from the Permit >>> <http://schema.org/Permit> type to express the period >>> for which an educational occupational credential is >>> valid. This relates to our use case that "having found a >>> credential it should be possible to identify what is >>> required to renew or maintain the validity of that >>> credential". >>> >>> We also have a use case to show the coverage of a >>> credential, i.e. the geographic area or jurisdiction for >>> which the credential is valid, which came up during our >>> discussions on the language of a credential. The validIn >>> <http://schema.org/validIn> property from the Permit >>> type would cover this. >>> >>> So the proposal is that we adjust the expected domain of >>> validFor and validIn to include Educational Occupational >>> Credentials, and modify the definitions to refer to >>> "permits and credentials". >>> >>> Comments? >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> validFor: http://schema.org/validFor >>> >>> Permit: http://schema.org/Permit >>> >>> validIn: http://schema.org/validIn >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Phil Barker <http://people.pjjk.net/phil>. >>> http://people.pjjk.net/phil >>> PJJK Limited <https://www.pjjk.co.uk/>: technology to >>> enhance learning; information systems for education. >>> CETIS LLP: a cooperative consultancy for innovation in >>> education technology. >>> >>> PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private >>> limited company, number SC569282. >>> CETIS is a co-operative limited liability partnership, >>> registered in England number OC399090 >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> Phil Barker <http://people.pjjk.net/phil>. >> http://people.pjjk.net/phil >> PJJK Limited <https://www.pjjk.co.uk/>: technology to enhance >> learning; information systems for education. >> CETIS LLP: a cooperative consultancy for innovation in >> education technology. >> >> PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private limited >> company, number SC569282. >> CETIS is a co-operative limited liability partnership, >> registered in England number OC399090 >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Stuart A. Sutton, Metadata Consultant >> Associate Professor Emeritus, University of Washington >> Information School >> Email: stuartasutton@gmail.com <mailto:stuartasutton@gmail.com> >> Skype: sasutton >> >> > > -- Phil Barker <http://people.pjjk.net/phil>. http://people.pjjk.net/phil PJJK Limited <https://www.pjjk.co.uk>: technology to enhance learning; information systems for education. CETIS LLP <https://www.cetis.org.uk>: a cooperative consultancy for innovation in education technology. PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private limited company, number SC569282. CETIS is a co-operative limited liability partnership, registered in England number OC399090
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