Re: EOCred: link to course

Phil, I think the refinement to the definition looks good by wrapping in
assessment and therefore covering the two primary mechanisms for earning a
credential: some form of learning opportunity or assessment of
competencies.

The json-ld encodings for use of educationalCredentialAwarded look good. I
ran the examples through the W3C's RDF validator and they generate
meaningful graphs (for what that is worth).

1. Separate descriptions (aggregated)


2. Reversed educationalCredentialAwarded


​
While I understand the desire not to create the inverse property,​ however
using @reverse presents a bit of complexity that can confuse...

--Stuart

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 2:11 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk> wrote:

> Can I ask anyone interested to check this over, please. I think people's
> attention might still have been on educationalLevel when I posted it. The
> proposal is essentially that we can link from Course to EOCredential with
> an already proposed property of Course, schema:
> educationalCredentialAwarded
> <http://pending.schema.org/educationalCredentialAwarded> and that we do
> not need an inverse property to meet the use case of linking EOCredential
> to Course.  Details below and on the wiki
> <https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/User:Philbarker/Draft:Link_educational_occupational_credentials_to_courses#Draft_code_for_schema.org>
> All the best, Phil
>
> On 14/02/18 14:38, Phil Barker wrote:
>
> Hello all. Two things in this email, first a tweak to a use case and its
> requirements, second a proposal to use the schema:
> educationalCredentialAwarded
> <http://pending.schema.org/educationalCredentialAwarded> property of
> Course to relate EducationalOccupationalCredentials to Courses (without
> creating a new property as an inverse of that one).
>
>
> We have a use case relating to secondary search for learning resources
> and courses
> <https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Use_Cases#Learning_resources_and_Courses>,
> that is:
>
> Having found an educational or occupational credential, and possibly
> identified the competencies required to obtain that credential, an
> individual wants to search for materials, courses or other things that will
> help them acquire those competencies.
>
> The derived requirement is the ability to show relationship between
> educational / occupational credential objects and descriptions or
> representations of Courses (and maybe other learning resources)
>
> I think that in the course of our discussions about providing information
> about the cost of attaining an educational occupational credential we came
> close to solving this.
>
> But first,* I think the use case & requirement need a bit of a tweak. *On
> reflection learning resources will be less important, and we should mention
> the possibility of finding Assessments. My thinking on learning resources
> is that these will be linked to via common competence requirements /
> learning objectives. SO, I would rephrase the use case as:
>
> Having found an educational or occupational credential, and possibly
> identified the competencies required to obtain that credential, an
> individual wants to search for courses or assessments that lead to that
> credential, or other things that will help them acquire the competencies
> required.
>
> And I would list the requirements as
>
>    - the ability to show relationship between educational / occupational
>    credentials and descriptions or representations of Courses
>    - the ability to show relationship between educational / occupational
>    credentials and descriptions or representations of Assessments
>    - the ability to show relationship between competencies required for
>    educational / occupational credentials and descriptions or representations
>    of learning resources
>
> Please let me know whether that seems reasonable.
>
> Proposal for* linking Educational Occupational Credentials to Courses*
> I have drafted a proposal
> <https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/User:Philbarker/Draft:Link_educational_occupational_credentials_to_courses#Draft_code_for_schema.org>
> for the first of these based on our discussion of costs
>
> It is based on using the schema:educationalCredentialAwarded
> <http://pending.schema.org/educationalCredentialAwarded> property of
> Course either in a separate object representing the Course and linking back
> to the credential, or using RDFa or JSON-LD syntax to use this property in
> reverse.
>
> Please let me know what you think,
> Phil
>
> [current usecase] https://www.w3.org/community/
> eocred-schema/wiki/Use_Cases#Learning_resources_and_Courses
>
> [draft prosal] https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/User:
> Philbarker/Draft:Link_educational_occupational_
> credentials_to_courses#Draft_code_for_schema.org
>
> [schema:educationalCredentialAwarded] http://pending.schema.org/
> educationalCredentialAwarded
>
> --
>
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>
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>
>
> --
>
> Phil Barker <http://people.pjjk.net/phil>. http://people.pjjk.net/phil
> PJJK Limited <https://www.pjjk.co.uk>: technology to enhance learning;
> information systems for education.
> CETIS LLP: a cooperative consultancy for innovation in education
> technology.
>
> PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private limited company,
> number SC569282.
> CETIS is a co-operative limited liability partnership, registered in
> England number OC399090
>



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Stuart A. Sutton, Metadata Consultant
Associate Professor Emeritus, University of Washington
   Information School
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