Re: EOCred: link to course

Phil,

I think this looks good. 

One of my interests in joining this group comes from the fact that I build a large number of web sites for colleges and universities in the United States, and representing the programs of study (particularly those that result in a professional credential or certification) is of great interest to our clients.

For some certifications, you simply need to complete a certain number of “hours” or “points” within a certain period, say a year, in order to maintain your credential. Does this relationship have a way of expressing those hours or points? Perhaps it’s asking a lot.

It also makes me think of a tangential point - what about other CreativeWorks that are related to earning or maintaining this credential? Like study guides, books, videos, etc. Something to come back to later. I worked on a website for Pfizer that would award continuing education credit for watching a particular slideshow on the web site and completing a quiz. In that case I believe you could represent the slideshow as a course, so for the most part we are covered there.

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> On Feb 14, 2018, at 6:38 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello all. Two things in this email, first a tweak to a use case and its requirements, second a proposal to use the schema:educationalCredentialAwarded <http://pending.schema.org/educationalCredentialAwarded> property of Course to relate EducationalOccupationalCredentials to Courses (without creating a new property as an inverse of that one).
> 
> We have a use case relating to secondary search for learning resources and courses <https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Use_Cases#Learning_resources_and_Courses>, that is: 
> Having found an educational or occupational credential, and possibly identified the competencies required to obtain that credential, an individual wants to search for materials, courses or other things that will help them acquire those competencies. 
> The derived requirement is the ability to show relationship between educational / occupational credential objects and descriptions or representations of Courses (and maybe other learning resources)
> I think that in the course of our discussions about providing information about the cost of attaining an educational occupational credential we came close to solving this. 
> But first, I think the use case & requirement need a bit of a tweak. On reflection learning resources will be less important, and we should mention the possibility of finding Assessments. My thinking on learning resources is that these will be linked to via common competence requirements / learning objectives. SO, I would rephrase the use case as: 
> Having found an educational or occupational credential, and possibly identified the competencies required to obtain that credential, an individual wants to search for courses or assessments that lead to that credential, or other things that will help them acquire the competencies required. 
> 
> And I would list the requirements as 
> the ability to show relationship between educational / occupational credentials and descriptions or representations of Courses
> the ability to show relationship between educational / occupational credentials and descriptions or representations of Assessments
> the ability to show relationship between competencies required for educational / occupational credentials and descriptions or representations of learning resources 
> Please let me know whether that seems reasonable.
> 
> Proposal for linking Educational Occupational Credentials to Courses
> I have drafted a proposal <https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/User:Philbarker/Draft:Link_educational_occupational_credentials_to_courses#Draft_code_for_schema.org> for the first of these based on our discussion of costs
> 
> It is based on using the schema:educationalCredentialAwarded <http://pending.schema.org/educationalCredentialAwarded> property of Course either in a separate object representing the Course and linking back to the credential, or using RDFa or JSON-LD syntax to use this property in reverse.
> 
> Please let me know what you think,
> Phil
> 
> [current usecase] https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Use_Cases#Learning_resources_and_Courses <https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Use_Cases#Learning_resources_and_Courses>
> 
> [draft prosal] https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/User:Philbarker/Draft:Link_educational_occupational_credentials_to_courses#Draft_code_for_schema.org <https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/User:Philbarker/Draft:Link_educational_occupational_credentials_to_courses#Draft_code_for_schema.org>
> 
> [schema:educationalCredentialAwarded] http://pending.schema.org/educationalCredentialAwarded <http://pending.schema.org/educationalCredentialAwarded>
> 
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