Re: EOCred: Identify the level of a credential

Thank you for all the discussion so far. I have tried to summarise where 
we are with describing the level of a credential in a draft on the wiki 
<https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/User:Philbarker/Draft:Educational_level_of_a_credential>. 
I have gone with direct references to terms that described educational 
levels, without any AlignmentObjecting

In doing so I have tried not to refer to credentials explicitly, because 
I think this property might be useful for Courses and learning resources 
in general, but I am open to input on that if you think that it makes 
the definition unnecessarily vague.

The main issue I see is whether educationalLevel is the right name. If 
it is not, I suspect that Robbie has started writing his reply before 
reading this far :) I am very open to wording from people involved in 
occupational credentialling and workplace learning for wording that is 
more inviting to their community.

As ever, all comments welcome.  Phil


[draft educationaLevel] 
https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/User:Philbarker/Draft:Educational_level_of_a_credential

On 07/02/18 12:27, Phil Barker wrote:
>
> The next use case I would like to discuss is around identifying the 
> level of an educational / occupational credential currently stated as: 
> it should be possible to search or review results of a search by 
> specific credential level, e.g. post-graduate, High school, entry, 
> intermediate, advanced.
>
> To do this we need to be able to relate an educational / occupational 
> credential to a description or representation of an educational level. 
> I see two options for this:
>
> A. we do the same as is currently done for learning resources and 
> courses and use the educationalAlignement 
> <http://schema.org/educationalAlignment>property to point to an 
> AlignmentObject <http://schema.org/AlignmentObject> which in turn 
> points to and/or describes an educational level.
>
> B. we add a new property educationalLevel which could point to either 
> an AlignmentObject or directly to a DefinedTerm for the educational level.
>
> I'm interested in anyone's thoughts on which they would prefer.
>
>
> =A bit of background to the AlignmentObject.=
>
> - the educationalAlignment / AligmentObject pairing is useful when you 
> don't want to pre-define and thus limit types of alignments involved 
> by having a few properties for specific alignments (that's at the root 
> of why LRMI introduced it, here we have a specific alignment type we 
> know we want.)
>
> - the AlignmentObject is useful when the thing to which you are 
> aligning is not properly defined a a firstclass schema.org object; it 
> allows you to refer to it by description
>
> - the AlignmentObject is useful when you want to say things about the 
> alignment itself (e.g. describe who asserts the alignment is true and 
> how they came to this judgement) though this ability is under 
> developed and to my knowledge not used
>
> - research <https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=3054160>[*] into LRMI 
> schema.org markup in the wild suggests that the AlignmentObject (and 
> relatively more complex / abstract approaches in general) are used 
> less frequently than simpler property - value [literal] relationships.
>
> - the Open Badges spec uses an alignment property to point from a 
> badge class to an AlignmentObject representing objectives or 
> educational standards (which is slightly different to this use case, 
> though we several use cases for aligning to competencies)
>
>
> Please let me know your thoughts.
>
> Phil
>
>
> * open access copy of that paper at 
> https://blogs.pjjk.net/phil/confpaper/analysing-improving-embedded-markup-learning-resources-web/
>
>
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>
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Phil Barker <http://people.pjjk.net/phil>. http://people.pjjk.net/phil
PJJK Limited <https://www.pjjk.co.uk>: technology to enhance learning; 
information systems for education.
CETIS LLP: a cooperative consultancy for innovation in education technology.

PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private limited company, 
number SC569282.
CETIS is a co-operative limited liability partnership, registered in 
England number OC399090