Re: EOCred: recognition of credential

I would posit that recognition is a different type of action than
accreditation. Recognition asserts that this organization consumes the
specified credential, whereas accreditation projects an organization's
authority onto the credential, saying not only do they recognize it, but
that if you recognize the organization's authority, your organization
should too recognize it.

I think the observation that Recognition is a subproperty of Accreditation
is accurate, but the action of accreditation, I believe, is distinct (and
superior).

As an example from:
http://www.apa.org/ed/accreditation/first-street-accord.aspx

*In 2012, the Canadian Psychological Association (CPA) and American
Psychological Association (APA) through its Commission on Accreditation
(CoA) approved and signed the First Street Accord. The accord is a mutual
recognition agreement on accreditation. It demonstrates that the APA CoA
views the accreditation standards and principles of the CPA as equivalent
to the Commission on Accreditation's guidelines and principles. Similarly,
the CPA views the accreditation guidelines and principles of the Commission
on Accreditation as equivalent to the accreditation standards and
principles of the CPA. This mutual recognition agreement applies only to
the accreditation activities each association undertakes in its own
country. It is an agreement that recognizes the equivalence of the systems
of accreditation of the CPA and APA and does not confer any reciprocal
accreditation status on any of the programs they accredit.*

I have trouble parsing the above, but what I believe they state is that
they recognize the equivalence of their practices (and may therefore
largely recognize each others awarded credentials) but do not
cross-accredit the credentials.

Recognition is also a big deal in international degree transfer, but I'm
not versed very well on the specific mechanics of that area.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 6:05 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
> On 10/04/18 13:59, Stuart Sutton wrote:
>
> Phil, given that accreditation is a kind of recognition, there would be
> nothing wrong definitionally in using only recognizedBy to encompass both;
> however, for many, the currency (labor market value) of a credential with
> accreditation is higher than with simple recognition. Perhaps propose
> recognizedBy as a property of EducationalOccupationalCredential now while
> holding open the possibility of later declaring accreditedBy as a
> subproperty of it.
>
> Yes, that seems right to me.
>
>
> With the definition, perhaps something more inclusive such as "validity,
> value or utility" as opposed to just "validity".
>
> Good idea, will do.
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 4:24 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> I mentioned
>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-eocred-schema/2018Mar/0045.html>
>> [1] in our discussion around name search for the credentialing organization
>> that there were several relationships possible between an educational
>> occupational credential and an organization as well as offeredBy. Two of
>> these, accreditedBy and recognizedBy, relate to our use case about quality
>> assurance
>> <https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Use_Cases#Quality_assurance>
>> and labor market value
>> <https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Use_Cases#Labor_market_value>
>> [2].
>>
>> With the aim of keeping the number of properties to a minimum, can we
>> treat accreditation as a form of recognition?
>> Should we add recognizedBy as a property of EducationalOccupationalCredent
>> ial?
>>
>> Definition: An organization that acknowledges the validity of a
>> credential.
>>
>> Note: This recognition may include a process of quality assurance or
>> accreditation.
>>
>> Examples:
>> <law degree> recognizedBy <bar association>
>> <certificate> recognizedBy <trade body>
>> <mba degree> recognizedBy <AMBA>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> 1. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-eocred-schema/20
>> 18Mar/0045.html
>>
>> 2. Use cases: https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Use_Cases
>> --
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>
>
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> Associate Professor Emeritus, University of Washington
>    Information School
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> Phil Barker <http://people.pjjk.net/phil>. http://people.pjjk.net/phil
> PJJK Limited <https://www.pjjk.co.uk>: technology to enhance learning;
> information systems for education.
> CETIS LLP <https://www.cetis.org.uk>: a cooperative consultancy for
> innovation in education technology.
>
> PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private limited company,
> number SC569282.
> CETIS is a co-operative limited liability partnership, registered in
> England number OC399090
>