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Re: EOWG - Evaluation Resources

From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 13:07:48 +0200
To: Vivienne Conway <v.conway@webkeyit.com>
Cc: public-eo-archive@w3.org
Message-ID: <64e6de87-bd9b-27f2-c754-524d150e057a@w3.org>
Hi Vivienne,

Good point, I completely agree with the observation that people often 
mistakenly think that third-party content is not covered by WCAG 2.0.

As you correctly point out, we already have a corresponding section in 
WCAG-EM to clarify the coverage of WCAG 2.0 for third-party content:
  - https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG-EM/#thirdparty

What more do we need to say about this? Also, is this new guidance we 
need to provide versus an awareness-raising campaign that is needed?

Getting back to the rest of the workplan, I would be happy to complete 
the draft template update. Can you maybe start working on the purpose, 
use cases, and key messages of the "combined expertise" document? You 
could simply start an EOWG wiki page for now if you're more comfortable 
with that. Here are some requirements analyses documents to follow:
  - https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Eval_Analysis
  - 
https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Showcase_Examples_with_Videos/Requirements_Analysis
  - https://github.com/w3c/wai-wcag-quickref/wiki/requirements-analysis

Best,
   Shadi


On 02/08/2017 12:37, Vivienne Conway wrote:
> Hi Shadi
> 
> This all seems perfect to me, and I completely agree.
> 
> My only additional thought is the issue people are having with third-party
> content and whether this needs to be involved in the evaluation or whether
> they can put it down as an exception to any compliance claim.  Currently
> people are using it as a 'get out of jail free card', but the recent US case
> of Winn-Dixie may well change all that. There could be information placed in
> the template or perhaps it should be located somewhere else completely.
> 
> In WCAG-EM there is an optional section for 'combined expertise' so we can
> refer people to that when we deal with the 'using combined expertise'
> section in this resource.   There is also a section on 'evaluating
> third-party content' in WCAG-EM that can be referred to.
> 
> 
> 
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> telephone.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Vivienne Conway, Ph.D., B.IT (Hons), MACS (Snr) CP, AALIA(CS)
> Director
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shadi Abou-Zahra [mailto:shadi@w3.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2017 6:11 PM
> To: Vivienne Conway <v.conway@webkeyit.com>
> Cc: public-eo-archive@w3.org
> Subject: Re: EOWG - Evaluation Resources
> 
> [adding public EO archive for future reference]
> 
> Hi Vivienne,
> 
> Thanks for reaching out, I look forward to working with you on this!
> 
> There are three separate documents in this package, and so I think we should
> first decide what we want to do with each:
> 
> # Template for Accessibility Evaluation Reports
> 
> In my view, people often want to see a template - either so they know what
> they should provide (eg. a webmaster being asked to evaluate the
> website) or what they should expect (eg. when contracting someone).
> 
> This should be fairly easy to do, and I had already started working on it
> with Howard. Basically my idea is to take the "View Report" output from the
> WCAG-EM Report Tool and provide some annotations around it.
> 
> Do you agree with this suggestion to keep and update this resource?
> 
> 
> # Using Combined Expertise to Evaluate Web Accessibility
> 
> Many moons ago this used to be called "Review Teams" or so. Basically the
> key message is leveraging different expertise across organizations (eg.
> developer, designer, UX, IA, etc.) for comprehensive evaluations.
> 
> I think this message is still useful but currently this document seems to go
> all over the place. I think we need go back to the drawing board and revise
> the objectives, use cases, and key messages from new. There is an outdated
> changelog from which we could start:
>    - https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/changelogs/cl-eval-teams
> 
> What are your thoughts on this document and its usefulness?
> 
> 
> # Evaluation Approaches for Specific Contexts
> 
> Historically this was a catch-all bucket for the entire resource suite.
> Meanwhile I think there is hardly any need for this document. Some of the
> key messages, like "evaluation during the development process" and "ongoing
> monitoring" are addressed by "Planning and Managing". Other messages could
> be incorporated in the "combined expertise" document.
> 
> Unless you can think of "specific contexts" for evaluation that require
> additional guidance, then I think we could retire this document.
> 
> Do you see current need for this document?
> 
> 
> Best,
>     Shadi
> 
> 
> On 02/08/2017 09:31, Vivienne Conway wrote:
>> Hi Shadi
>>
>> You and I are down for the Evaluation Resources in the EOWG Resource
>> Management sheet.  I can see that it has an '*' after the title and
>> that it isn't clear if this required before or after launch yet.
>> https://www.w3.org/WAI/eval/Overview
>>
>>    
>>
>> Should we work out a project plan?  If so, what would you like me to do?
>> I'm not comfortable with GitHub as I've never worked with it before,
>> but I'm working through a tutorial on it.  I'm also still a bit fuzzy
>> on how we go about evaluating the resources.  Any guidance and tasks
>> you can provide would be very much appreciated, as I don't want to get
> behind in this work.
>>
>>    
>>
>> I can see that some of the links are very old and should probably be
>> updated or retired, so perhaps this is where to start?
>>
>>    
>>
>>    
>>
>> Please be advised that I check my emails at approximately 9am and 4pm
>> each day (more or less).  If you require assistance sooner, please
>> feel free to telephone.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>    
>>
>> Vivienne Conway, Ph.D., B.IT (Hons), MACS (Snr) CP, AALIA(CS)
>>
>> Director
>>
>>    
>>
>> Web Key IT Pty Ltd
>>
>> PO BOX 681 Wanneroo, WA 6946
>>
>> Phone:    (08) 9206 3987
>>
>> Mobile:   0415 383 673
>>
>> Email:        <mailto:v.conway@webkeyit.com> v.conway@webkeyit.com
>>
>> Website:   <http://www.webkeyit.com/> www.webkeyit.com
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Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist
Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
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