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RE: EOWG - Evaluation Resources

From: Vivienne Conway <v.conway@webkeyit.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 18:37:36 +0800
To: "'Shadi Abou-Zahra'" <shadi@w3.org>
Cc: <public-eo-archive@w3.org>
Message-ID: <084101d30b7b$5d702570$18507050$@webkeyit.com>
Hi Shadi

This all seems perfect to me, and I completely agree.

My only additional thought is the issue people are having with third-party
content and whether this needs to be involved in the evaluation or whether
they can put it down as an exception to any compliance claim.  Currently
people are using it as a 'get out of jail free card', but the recent US case
of Winn-Dixie may well change all that. There could be information placed in
the template or perhaps it should be located somewhere else completely.  

In WCAG-EM there is an optional section for 'combined expertise' so we can
refer people to that when we deal with the 'using combined expertise'
section in this resource.   There is also a section on 'evaluating
third-party content' in WCAG-EM that can be referred to.  



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-----Original Message-----
From: Shadi Abou-Zahra [mailto:shadi@w3.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2017 6:11 PM
To: Vivienne Conway <v.conway@webkeyit.com>
Cc: public-eo-archive@w3.org
Subject: Re: EOWG - Evaluation Resources

[adding public EO archive for future reference]

Hi Vivienne,

Thanks for reaching out, I look forward to working with you on this!

There are three separate documents in this package, and so I think we should
first decide what we want to do with each:

# Template for Accessibility Evaluation Reports

In my view, people often want to see a template - either so they know what
they should provide (eg. a webmaster being asked to evaluate the
website) or what they should expect (eg. when contracting someone).

This should be fairly easy to do, and I had already started working on it
with Howard. Basically my idea is to take the "View Report" output from the
WCAG-EM Report Tool and provide some annotations around it.

Do you agree with this suggestion to keep and update this resource?


# Using Combined Expertise to Evaluate Web Accessibility

Many moons ago this used to be called "Review Teams" or so. Basically the
key message is leveraging different expertise across organizations (eg.
developer, designer, UX, IA, etc.) for comprehensive evaluations.

I think this message is still useful but currently this document seems to go
all over the place. I think we need go back to the drawing board and revise
the objectives, use cases, and key messages from new. There is an outdated
changelog from which we could start:
  - https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/changelogs/cl-eval-teams

What are your thoughts on this document and its usefulness?


# Evaluation Approaches for Specific Contexts

Historically this was a catch-all bucket for the entire resource suite. 
Meanwhile I think there is hardly any need for this document. Some of the
key messages, like "evaluation during the development process" and "ongoing
monitoring" are addressed by "Planning and Managing". Other messages could
be incorporated in the "combined expertise" document.

Unless you can think of "specific contexts" for evaluation that require
additional guidance, then I think we could retire this document.

Do you see current need for this document?


Best,
   Shadi


On 02/08/2017 09:31, Vivienne Conway wrote:
> Hi Shadi
> 
> You and I are down for the Evaluation Resources in the EOWG Resource 
> Management sheet.  I can see that it has an '*' after the title and 
> that it isn't clear if this required before or after launch yet.
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/eval/Overview
> 
>   
> 
> Should we work out a project plan?  If so, what would you like me to do?
> I'm not comfortable with GitHub as I've never worked with it before, 
> but I'm working through a tutorial on it.  I'm also still a bit fuzzy 
> on how we go about evaluating the resources.  Any guidance and tasks 
> you can provide would be very much appreciated, as I don't want to get
behind in this work.
> 
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> 
> I can see that some of the links are very old and should probably be 
> updated or retired, so perhaps this is where to start?
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> Please be advised that I check my emails at approximately 9am and 4pm 
> each day (more or less).  If you require assistance sooner, please 
> feel free to telephone.
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> Regards,
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>   
> 
> Vivienne Conway, Ph.D., B.IT (Hons), MACS (Snr) CP, AALIA(CS)
> 
> Director
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> Web Key IT Pty Ltd
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> PO BOX 681 Wanneroo, WA 6946
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> Phone:    (08) 9206 3987
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> Mobile:   0415 383 673
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> Email:        <mailto:v.conway@webkeyit.com> v.conway@webkeyit.com
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Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ Accessibility Strategy
and Technology Specialist Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) World Wide Web
Consortium (W3C)

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