- From: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
- Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:29:18 -0500
- To: <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
- Cc: "'eGov IG \(Public\)'" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>, <acusson@01communications.com>, "'Jay Fohs'" <Jay.Fohs@marklogic.com>, "'Andy Obermayer'" <Andy.Obermayer@marklogic.com>
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Yes, Paola, facilitating connections among people who are pursuing similar objectives for the benefit of similar or the same stakeholders is among the purposes of the StratML standard. http://xml.gov/stratml/index.htm#DefinitionPurposes I agree that eventually (perhaps soon) there should be only one file/URL for each plan/report. When I started the collection a number of years ago with only a few files, I wanted to make it easy for folks who have little or no understanding of XML to see both the plain XML text as well as a stylized rendition of each plan/report. However, I understand that may no longer be necessary or worthwhile. Another purpose of the standard is to make it easier to update and maintain plans, to help overcome the fact that many of them become "shelfware" as soon as they are published. ISTC's plans are now available in Andre Cusson's StratML Portal, where they currently appear as numbers 572 & 573 at http://stratml.hyperbase.com/documents.html They can be edited by clicking on the Edit links to invoke his XSLT form. I understand they currently must be saved locally but that Andre plans to work with Andy Obermayer of MarkLogic to enable folks like you to create, edit, and save their plans and reports on his portal. I know that Andre would appreciate your feedback on the features and capabilities of his site. In the meantime, I will be happy to post on the xml.gov site the plans and reports of anyone who makes them available in StratML format, using any of the tools list at http://xml.gov/stratml/index.htm#Forms (or any other tools they may choose to use). I am especially interested in collaborating with anyone who may wish to help enhance and improve my InfoPath forms. Owen From: paoladimaio10@gmail.com [mailto:paoladimaio10@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paola Di Maio Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 6:13 AM To: Owen Ambur Cc: eGov IG (Public); acusson@01communications.com; Jay Fohs Subject: Re: Tools for eGovernance Thanks a lot Owen it does look 'beautiful', it renders well I can see one possible use: when enough people have their vision in strathml we can run a query to match 'like' people and organisations and this could help us form collaborative clusters using semantic similarity Just a couple of thoughts: -would it be good to have only one file/url per entity (istcs) so that when I have to update the info, i can do so by updating only one file, and have all other instances automatically import the refreshed file every so often - what's the best way to update the file when I have a minute to complete the profile (other than sending it to you) thank you PDM On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> wrote: Paola, your plan for ISTCS is now available in the StratML collection at http://xml.gov/stratml/drybridge/index.htm#ISTCS or, more specifically, http://xml.gov/stratml/dimaio/ISTCS.xml & http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ISTCS2wStyle.xml Please note that I made a few adjustments in the latter rendition of your plan. Your goal <http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ISTCS2wStyle.xml#_f173517a-2d8b-11e2-a125-b56 f5b280d48> should be exciting to many people. When Andre has imported your plan into his StratML portal <http://stratml.hyperbase.com/documents.html> , his form <http://www.hyperbase.com/xml/cosmos/resource/apps/stratedit.xml> can be used to flesh it out as a performance plan, with designated roles and performance indicators. I trust that he will be happy to have folks like you use his portal to post their plans and reports. However, the vision of the StratML standard is: A worldwide web of intentions, stakeholders, and results . meaning that folks should be free to post their plans and reports wherever they choose on the public Web. Service providers should compete for the privilege not only to host StratML formatted plans and reports but also to make the information and data they contain readily usable and useful to stakeholders. MarkLogic, for example, is redeveloping their StratML search service. http://xml.gov/stratml/index.htm#MarkLogic BTW, while I was at it, I also converted ISTCS's somewhat more formal about us statement, at http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ISTCSwStyle.xml Owen From: paoladimaio10@gmail.com [mailto:paoladimaio10@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paola Di Maio Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:10 AM To: eGov IG (Public) Subject: Fwd: Tools for eGovernance ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> Date: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:08 PM Subject: Re: Tools for eGovernance To: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> Owen Paola, don't get me started on the term "governance" . which all-too-often implies trying to gain the upper hand, politically speaking, to force *others* to do things, rather than focusing on that which we could and should do for ourselves, in partnership with those who share not only our values but also our objectives. Thank you for the reminder that this group is still not started taking steps (unless I missed it) toward creating a shared definition for egovernance (see previous emails). Not sure if the members of the group have been surveyed yet to see what definition would work for them etc. (but we had some exhcnages on this list to that effect) BTW, it is good to see that you have documented a mission and personal goal at http://personal.strath.ac.uk/paola.dimaio/ Imagine what might be accomplished if multitudes of people were to document not only their longer-term goals but also their near-term objectives on the Web in an *open, standard, machine-readable format* like StratML. Thank yo for the prompt I have gone to STRATHML creator and created a test file to start with- is there a directory of strathml files I can load to> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XeDqbLLqHSQWpDdnFfLUdkbWs/edit cheers PDM Owen Ambur Co-Chair, AIIM StratML <http://xml.gov/stratml/index.htm> Committee Co-Chair Emeritus, xml.gov <http://xml.gov/> CoP Communications/Membership Director, FIRM <http://firmcouncil.org/index.htm> Former Project Manager, ET.gov <http://et.gov/> Invited Expert, W3C eGov IG <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=42481&public=1> From: Holm, Jeanne M (1760) [mailto:jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 6:30 AM To: Tim Davies; paoladimaio10@googlemail.com Cc: eGov IG (Public) Subject: Re: Tools for eGovernance Paola and Tim-- It is less about which tools can and could be used (there are many), than about the policies of the bodies which govern and convene the meetings. My understanding is that the W3C has good reasons why they do not actually record or make recordable the verbal discussions and broadcasts from the meetings. For this group, therefore, I abide by those rules. However, there could certainly be an interesting discussion on the list and in our meetings on how best to accomplish (or what ways we could accomplish) the easiest participation in such activities if policies were changed or for groups where the policies are different. --Jeanne ********************************************************** Jeanne Holm Evangelist, Data.gov U.S. General Services Administration Cell: (818) 434-5037 Twitter/Facebook/LinkedIn: JeanneHolm ********************************************************** From: Tim Davies <tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:18:10 +0000 To: <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com> Cc: "eGov IG (Public)" <public-egov-ig@w3.org> Subject: Re: Tools for eGovernance Resent-From: <public-egov-ig@w3.org> Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:18:59 +0000 Just a quick pointer to an interesting Working Draft from the IETF on Remote Participation: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs/?include_text=1 As IETF highlight, and as is mirrored by my experience last week trying to remote participate in the Internet Governance Forum, which has also worked hard to support remote panelists and participation, the right mix of tools and practices to support remote participation in face-to-face meetings, and effective cross-platform online-only meetings, currently still seem somewhat elusive. There has been the suggestion in past Internet Governance Forum discussions on Remote Participation that it would be good to have a shared project between a number of conferences / fora which have a governance function to develop shared tools, principles and guidance for e-Participation in meetings - but as yet nothing has come of this. Perhaps it's something that could have connections to the eGov meeting. All the best Tim On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote: just a quick household note I may have asked this before, apologies for repetition I find it hard to understand why the calls are not broadcast using some webex type application ( anymeeting.com is free and works well and there are others) While when I am based at the office I have free calls to most countries and can easily spend hours on the phone without breaking the budget for this effort however when I travel (which in the last few months has been a constant and it is likely to get worse) it's difficult, expensive and not always possible to get on the phone long distance. This means I cannot volunteer to scribe (I am sure it would be my turn at some point) I must say that I have the same observation for other similar events, for example I could not attend in person yesterday the #sw2022 session at #iswc2012 , so sorry I am missing the opportunity to meet in person so many of you!! Slides <http://www.slideshare.net/PaolaDIM/sw10-yearslides> http://www.slideshare.net/PaolaDIM/sw10-yearslides Voiceover http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9bqBBJNIF4 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9bqBBJNIF4&list=UUcxJu04fCSkU9x1e7BwYYHQ&in dex=2&feature=plcp> &list=UUcxJu04fCSkU9x1e7BwYYHQ&index=2&feature=plcp I would have expected a virtual connection to present remotely and take part in the panel discussion remotely, but apparently this was not even contemplated by the organisers the bottom line is: how can we eGovern ourselves, without adopting the necessary eGovernance tools? This brings up another possible topic for discussion, 'Principles and Tools for eGovernance' (sine qua non) I d love to present a topic or two, and to scribe, when the facilities are available In the meantime, keep it growing :-) Cheers PDM -- http://www.timdavies.org.uk 07834 856 303 <tel:07834%20856%20303> . @timdavies Co-director of Practical Participation: http://www.practicalparticipation.co.uk -------------------------- Practical Participation Ltd is a registered company in England and Wales - #5381958.
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