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Re: IT procurement for eGov, transparency case studies

From: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 08:24:07 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <1340551447.2188.YahooMailNeo@web112608.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
To: Brand Niemann <bniemann@cox.net>, "'Holm, Jeanne M \(1760\)'" <jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov>, "paoladimaio10@googlemail.com" <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
Cc: "'eGov IG \(Public\)'" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
Thanks Brand,

I'll take the "country" class and list the "Country/Subdivisions Touched" report.  This doesn't deepen the data, as you know, but it does provide a text mapping of the "government islands".  Perhaps I'm being disingenuous, nit-picky for sure, but it's not clear to me that as Intellectual Property (the EU Database Directive), the Common Names of Administrative Entities in the middle of hierarchies have rights to their own name and any say as to what "data" they are associated with.

Except for three basket categories (EL (?) do they mean GB or England, EU27 pretty obvious, OTHER (?)) the remaining list (37) looks suspiciously like the UEFA Football League.  Your programmer was being impeccably honest when he/she said listening to the games in real time was work related - or - they did it on the sly and are soooooo busted (my apologies) :o)

 From: Brand Niemann <bniemann@cox.net>
To: "'Holm, Jeanne M (1760)'" <jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov>; paoladimaio10@googlemail.com 
Cc: 'eGov IG (Public)' <public-egov-ig@w3.org> 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 8:12 AM
Subject: RE: IT procurement for eGov, transparency case studies

Yes, and we could do this: http://semanticommunity.info/AOL_Government/Digital_Agenda_for_Europe
From:Holm, Jeanne M (1760) [mailto:jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov] 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 8:31 AM
To: <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
Cc: eGov IG (Public)
Subject: Re: IT procurement for eGov, transparency case studies
Great idea we'll make sure these ideas of eprocurement are included in the roadmap discussions. 

Jeanne Holm
Evangelist, Data.gov
General Services Administration

On Jun 24, 2012, at 4:59 AM, "Paola Di Maio" <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:

>One of the eGov hot topics is ''IT procurement" that is, how do Government
>select the  software that supports the electronic side of their operations. this is not just repositories 
>for open data, but all sorts of kit.
>Some References in this report:
>Government and IT - "a recipe for rip-offs": time for a new approach
>One of the projects I am working on at the moment, involves mapping, with documentation
>(as documentary evidence), for each eGovernment initiative, how the IT resources 
>are secured.
>Murky field of inquiry.
>just to start off, I  consulted the UK government last year, including issuing FOI requests, about the procurement, of CKAN for example,  particularly wanted to learn what was the original spec /requirements for CKAN, and what kind of funding was granted, based on what agreement/tender. however,  I was unable  to access any document available, including no contract between the UK government and OKFn for the development of CKAN, although there is some evidence of moneys having been exchanged between the UK Government and OKFn for the purpose of funding CKAN development. Does anyone have any info?
>I am gathering  the same for each EU country, but the respective eGov iniaitives so far seem to
>be cagey its not just the UK which is giving me the cold shoulder on this, and sometimes they simply say that there is no such thing as an IT procurement process for eGov at all, or simply decline to answer.  how can this be? aren't government spending, or planning to spend tons of public money to purchase the egovernment infrastuctures? how can this be done under the table?
>I would be interested to
>1. learn what other group members may know/think about the issue
>2.  does anyone know if the transparency laws and access to info and open data initiatives in the EU cover such things as IT procurement data for egov?
>3.  is anyone interested in collaborating in this effort? how do we propose the topic for development to this group.
>seems relevant
>An example of a Procurement life cycle can be summarised as follows, but it can take a variety of 
>different steps, some of which are 'decisions'
>Information gathering/requirements
>Supplier contact: 
>Background review: 
>Consumption, maintenance, and disposal: 
>Additional Step 
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