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Re: Restarting W3C eGov Meetings and Roadmap

From: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:04:41 -0700 (PDT)
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To: "paoladimaio10@googlemail.com" <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>, "Holm, Jeanne M \(1760\)" <jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: "eGov IG \(Public\)" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
Jeanne:  caffeine defficiency, sorry ... you mean today in an hours or so ?

Paola: Where the "locals" fit in eGov is indeed a problem because they use identical nomenclature of existing Federal Governments but are "Domain Sovereigns".  So, I came up with the concept of Public and Private Spaces to deal with the URI search schemes - always done on Public Spaces.  Somebody maintains (public) Cultural Heritage sites and  those islands in the commercial landscape should not be ignored.  The Top Level Domain organizations do not imply governance: there is no google.eu nor is there an eu.google.  In this scheme, organizations of global reach are all the sum (a list) of a group of "Domain Sovereigns".  Regards language, I list an "Interlingua" list of display languages available on the eGov website.  This is different from the bibliograph, a list of bibliographic languages used for legislation etc.  

I added Spain for you.  The last table on the page should be of interest.  There is a link given for most countries of the world.


 From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
To: "Holm, Jeanne M (1760)" <jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov> 
Cc: eGov IG (Public) <public-egov-ig@w3.org> 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: Restarting W3C eGov Meetings and Roadmap
Jane and all

additional thought:

I presume the work being done here is intended to be of global reach,
ie,applicable in principle to any country

Having studied how egov knowledge domain is developing worldwide (the
scope of W3C), I notice two easily identifiable poles:

1. local jurisdictions/legislation .  national /regional boundaries
seem to shape what is happening in egov
for example, EU vs USA etc. But there are subregions, EU is not an
even landscape, and presume the USA is not either. From a research
viewpoint, may be interesting to map these jurisdictions.I am
currently in Spain and the public administration I have spoken so far
have never heard of eGovernment.. I wonder what is happening in other
parts of the world.

2. language/information channels -  the majority of work in PA is done
in the local language, there seems to be a lot of asymmetry between
the lexical /conceptual heritage
in egov knowlege domain, depending i what language one is working,
also different knowledge sets.
A suggestion here may be that an egov shared vocab if adopted, should
be translated also in local languages, therefore, would be nice to
have local representatives from each jurisdiction participate in this



On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Jeanne
> thanks for the update
> good to see a plan ahead, I ll aim to contribute when possible to this
> interesting work
> Skimmed through your mail and links, Just a couple of points:
>> First, we will be resuming the meetings for the W3C eGov Interest Group.
>> Based on your responses to the survey, we will have a meeting every two
>> weeks, with differing times to best reach your time zones:
> what survey? - could find no link or is it an older one?
>> We have published the draft roadmap document to the wiki
>> at http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki. We welcome your comments and
>> suggestions.
> 1. the link to definition, does not redirect to a definition , as far
> as I can see at my end
> (but good that there is a plan to evaluate the definition)
> 2. Any meaningful discussion, for example to address mechanics and
> value proposition
> is constrained (ontologically) by the definitions adopted, therefore I
> must insist on the suggestion that we need to agree with a definition
> first, and the definition should be
> 'valid'  and functional to the purpose of e-government in the true sense.
> 3. define some general vocabulary. Again, this is a recurring thing,
> but the terminology/concepts that we adopt are likely to shape
> discourse. for example, not just the definition of egov.
> For example, I do not object to the word  'citizenry' , but I wonder
> if we all use it in the same way. In the light of
> modern and democratic constitutions that eGov emanates from (from what
> I understand)  citizens are sovereign , therefore citizenry can be a
> synonym of sovereignty Is this what is intended as 'citizenry' in the
> charter
> A bit nitpicking perhaps, but thats what i understand you are
> soliciting as feedback,
> Thank you, best
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